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Old 20-03-07, 08:04 AM   #21
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Default Re: best place for a 14 tooth front sprocket

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ya haggis standard rear.

and I think u pipped me to a 14 tooth front that was up for grabs on here !!

I am on here loads too- how i missed that I will never know..

such is life
dont me too disapointed as i too missed out on the sprocket

& im always on here .......... i got a 12 tooth if thats any good 4 u??
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Old 20-03-07, 08:34 AM   #22
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Quiff, you done this yet?

A few things to consider. It will make the bike rev higher in top. This i found a pain when on the motorway. It will also redline in top...if you need it to! It drank slighly more fuel as well. However around town its a hoot.

I bought mine directly from Talon. No point in a renthal or anything like that. You cant see it, and the std alloy sprockets are fairly soft! Changing to a 14t, will shorten the life of your chain...apprently. 14t is the equivilent to a 48t on the rear or there abouts.(45t Std) but you wont need to change the chain.

As for fitting. Its not to difficult. Take off sprocket cover, tap down crush washer, remove the clutch worm drive(for access) then undo the nut(try it 1st, sometimes its loose...if not, then a substantial lump of wood through the rear wheel, a breaker bar and 32mm socket iirc). Then rear up on paddock stand, adjust the wheel so its fully loose. Remove sprocket. Replace sprocket, tighten bolt as much as you can for now, adjust chain, lower bike onto floor, lump of wood through wheel, tighten the nut up (Dont worry about the tourque value, but just DFT, crush washer around the nut, replace worm drive, fit cover, job done
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Old 20-03-07, 08:44 AM   #23
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A few things to consider. It will make the bike rev higher in top. This i found a pain when on the motorway. It will also redline in top...if you need it to! It drank slighly more fuel as well. However around town its a hoot.
so ...... did you stick with the 14 tooth? or not?

im planning to give it go & find out,
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Old 20-03-07, 08:46 AM   #24
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No. Even though 90% of all my riding is in town, i went back to a 15t when i had the chain and sprockets fitted. Its ok, but just made the bike to buzy for my liking
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Old 20-03-07, 08:48 AM   #25
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then unfold the washer infront of the sprockt, (you may need to replace it mind) then with a large breaker par and a bit of brute stregnth undo it.
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, tap down crush washer, remove the clutch worm drive(for access) then undo the nut(try it 1st, sometimes its loose...if not, then a substantial lump of wood through the rear wheel, a breaker bar and 32mm socket iirc). Then rear up on paddock stand, adjust the wheel so its fully loose. Remove sprocket. Replace sprocket, tighten bolt as much as you can for now, adjust chain, lower bike onto floor, lump of wood through wheel, tighten the nut up (Dont worry about the tourque value, but just DFT, crush washer around the nut, replace worm drive, fit cover, job done
Does this crush washer need to be replaced or can you reuse the original?
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Old 20-03-07, 08:59 AM   #26
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No. Even though 90% of all my riding is in town, i went back to a 15t when i had the chain and sprockets fitted. Its ok, but just made the bike to buzy for my liking
so have you tried going up 1 or 2 on the back?

the 14 tooth will suck on the way up to AR07 & north/south then, from wales
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Old 20-03-07, 10:16 AM   #27
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Im happy with the std gearing. If i wanted any different then all i would put on would be the Naked kit +1 on rear. I have had the bike to long to faff now. She might get a tidy up and spray but thats about it.

As the washer isnt really a crush washer, you can use it again. I just bent it in a different place. If you really want, then replace it, but its not nessacary
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Old 20-03-07, 10:51 AM   #28
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I went down to 14 on the front and found it plain awful on the motorway! Good for wheelies but you will be very revey all the time!
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Old 20-03-07, 10:55 AM   #29
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Quiff, you done this yet?

A few things to consider. It will make the bike rev higher in top. This i found a pain when on the motorway. It will also redline in top...if you need it to! It drank slighly more fuel as well. However around town its a hoot.

I bought mine directly from Talon. No point in a renthal or anything like that. You cant see it, and the std alloy sprockets are fairly soft! Changing to a 14t, will shorten the life of your chain...apprently. 14t is the equivilent to a 48t on the rear or there abouts.(45t Std) but you wont need to change the chain.

As for fitting. Its not to difficult. Take off sprocket cover, tap down crush washer, remove the clutch worm drive(for access) then undo the nut(try it 1st, sometimes its loose...if not, then a substantial lump of wood through the rear wheel, a breaker bar and 32mm socket iirc). Then rear up on paddock stand, adjust the wheel so its fully loose. Remove sprocket. Replace sprocket, tighten bolt as much as you can for now, adjust chain, lower bike onto floor, lump of wood through wheel, tighten the nut up (Dont worry about the tourque value, but just DFT, crush washer around the nut, replace worm drive, fit cover, job done
thank you mr Vine - a beer owed mefinks..

I aint done it yet- got one coming- cost me £15 ! cos I missed the tenner one on here.

but its a giggle isnt it.. I like tinkering.. makes me feel manly-

I do a lot of town riding and nipping 10 miles to my mums to see my invalid daddy so should be a hoot..

I will pop it on and try it.. if as per Andy pitkin " i donnt liike iiit" can flog it on here for a tenner- there's enough folk wanting to do it .. ... just interestd to see the diference in accelleration and loss on top end and fuel consumption.. I dont coomute and use the bike for fun so on a 300 mile day rideout if i costs me an extra fiver so what- its life..! I get about 135 mile on a tank at moment..

so- we will wait and see.

other jobs left-

high link pipe
dog bone raisers
undertray and tail tidy
carbon mirrors..

then job done.!

see one minute I selling her next I spoiling her and blinging her up.!
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Old 20-03-07, 11:31 AM   #30
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ive fitted a 14 front and i think its a 47 on the rear, as apparently that was the highest i could go without going for stupid stunt size sprockets. yet to see what its like, should be on the road in a week or two. as i mainly hoon around town, i need it with better acceleration for overtaking and filtering. the bonus will be better wheelies. i very rarely do motorway work, but i might keep a spare chain, 15 front and a 46 rear when i do end up doing long distances. just so it doesnt hack me off.
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