Leave the UK?

Originally Posted by Ablazze

I do wish the middle classes wouldnt post about things they dont live thru ( & north is as bad just used your quote as it was same as hes said but not in 5,000 words :P ) as a working class bloke ( poorly educated ) but not work shy as the gentry like to call us, all these poles etc coming in may be great so you can build your extensions & pools cheaply, but it all adds to an employment envioment that keeps low skilled pay down, prolly not the biggest worry for you guys but sure as hell is for me & my bank manager....

Jas...

for the record my dad was a fitter, my mam was a sewing machinist and i went to a good old fashioned comprehensive school. Studied for best part of 10yrs whilst working in some of the roughest clubs in Hull as a barman 4 nights a week....

but thats besides the point.....

my personal views on immigration is, if there's a skills shortage and people come to the country to fill that gap - thats fine. After all thats what I am doing in Dubai.

If it starts putting people British people out of work, then thats not on. Maybe a tougher immigration like say Oz, where it is skills based is required.

karl

I would like to include the following items to my manifesto:

A minimum tolerance to the folowing would be adopted:

Drunkenness in public will involve heavy fines and the individual banned for 12 months from entering in to any establishment that serves alcahol. They will be tagged with a special piece of equipment that would make an audible "beep" when entering such an establishment.

Anyone found driving under the influence of any kind of drug or alcahol will immediately receive a lifetime driving ban and heavy fine.

Anyone found driving dangerously, causing an accident injuring others will have license withdrawn indefintely a minimum 3 year jail term and heavy fine.

Those responsible for the death of any other person either under the influence of substances or not, will have license withdrawn, all assets seized and used as part compensation for the family of the victim and a whole life jail term.

Anyone found carrying any recognised offensive weapon will be jailed for a minimum term of 5 years.

Anyone found carrying or using any offensive weapon to carry out a crime or use said weapon on any innocent individual will receive a whole life jail term.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

We get treated? By who? Our own people that's who.

The british population aren't becoming rude unhelpful and intollerant because of immigration or because of what the government are doing, it's because the British population ARE rude unhelpful and intollerant. Certain peoples posts on this thread demonstraight this clearly. People need to stop looking for someone else to blame.

yes a lot of people in the UK are beconming rude and ignorent, maybe because they have seen that being polite and tollerent of other people has seen them get taken advantage of, looked over for minority groups and generally had their government allow to much PC nonsence get everywhere.

So forgive them for being a little disillusioned. what is the point of being polite and accepting if the people who come to the UK are not with us??

I cant be bothered arguing with you, i just dont agree wit hyour stance on it so i am not going to argue with you.

i would hate for you to think i was rude and ingnorant.

Originally Posted by Baph

Filipe, you dissapoint me! I've just sat & read all this thread, and I didn't see any popcorn!!

Here , you can have mine, I've lost my appetite reading this thread...

My GF's mum lost her husband a few years back. He had worked since he was 14, paid a pension, and died shortly before retiring....

Because she is more than 10 years younger than him, she got nothing.......

Their son has just gone to Uni, they have removed her tax credits for being a single mum...

Now the law has changed, and they have stopped all credits. So now she is getting £300 a month, TOTAL to live on and run the house. HEr husband had worked for 50 odd years, and she gets nothing.

Because she was a house wife and doubltfull will qualify for state pension, she will get nothing from that.

Meanwhile, Mr Immirgrant gets a house, a car, a phone, all for free. They get to claim benefits for children back in their own country, without having to provide any real evidence......

Tell me whats fair in that????

There are people who have come to work and start a new life. No problems with these people, they pay their ways. Its those who have come over to sponge, can't speak english, and really don't care about changing to our livestyles, which is what you should do when moving to another country. This is a nanny state though, the government are becoming dictators, telling us what we can and cannot do. We ammend our lifes for everyone else, (muslims, racism yadder blah) instead of them changing their lifestyles to ours....


As said, grass isn't always greener. Im about to read the rest of this post (p3+), but the compromise is finding another country... Where to go? Aus is in the middle of no-where, same goes for New Zeland.. Can't go to the USA, love the country, hate the people and government. Can't go to most of Europe without learning another language?

Canada maybe? But then everyone says its boring? But not heard anyone say any real disadvantages yet?

This country is all wrong, its getting worse. The government has made it this way by giving all our hardworking tax paying money to the scum. Labour have paid the poor to arm themselves like they are today.

pedrosa, you do make me laugh

put the rod away

Originally Posted by Daimo

Can't go to most of Europe without learning another language?

And what's the problem with that? It doesn't hurt your head, you know

Originally Posted by Filipe M.

Here , you can have mine, I've lost my appetite reading this thread...

Thanks, whilst you're here, can you cheekily point some of those posting "with emotion" to the "smell checker."

I'm moving to the US in 2 week time They have different problems but least you get more house for your money, everything is cheaper, and you can carry gun

I wont be gun totting though

Originally Posted by AlanSv

and you can carry gun

Now that's what I call an excellent reason...

... to stay as far away as possible.