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Old 15-07-09, 11:05 PM   #71
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I thought camera offences were subject to NIPs only, and summonses could only be issued if an officer stopped and cautioned you at the time of the offence.
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Old 15-07-09, 11:10 PM   #72
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I thought camera offences were subject to NIPs only, and summonses could only be issued if an officer stopped and cautioned you at the time of the offence.
As I understand it the letter you get within 14days of the "offence" is simply a notice that they intend to prosecute you , ie: take you to court, hence NIP...

If your "crime" isn't too heinous they will give you the option of pleading guilty and accepting 3pts + £60 fine all in one go

But in your case, if they send the NIP out I suspect that option will be missing and you'll get your NIP through the post instead of verbally from a real copper
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Old 16-07-09, 08:24 AM   #73
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I thought camera offences were subject to NIPs only, and summonses could only be issued if an officer stopped and cautioned you at the time of the offence.
The NIP tells you they intend to prosecute. The summons, if you're unlucky, tells you how.
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Old 16-07-09, 09:09 AM   #74
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Old 16-07-09, 09:38 AM   #75
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Id get documentary evidence or your rellie going to hossie,including the ambulance journey.This could well be the mitigation you need for your "one off aberration" and wont be the normal excuse the courts hear every day.You will need proper evidence though.
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Old 16-07-09, 12:48 PM   #77
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Just note that the 14 day rule does not apply to all mototing offences, so if they intended to prosecute you for something other than speeding (ie dangerous driving) you'll need to check it out. I can't give a list of which offences apply, but I know Driving without due care NIP does not have to be served within14 days.
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Just note that the 14 day rule does not apply to all mototing offences, so if they intended to prosecute you for something other than speeding (ie dangerous driving) you'll need to check it out. I can't give a list of which offences apply, but I know Driving without due care NIP does not have to be served within14 days.

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The following offences require (under Section 1 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 - you'll find the whole Act here) that you be given notice of the fact that you may be prosecuted:-
a) Dangerous Driving
b) Careless & Inconsiderate driving
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What form must the notice take?

It can be :-
a) given verbally at the time of the offence, or
b) by a summons being served on the offender within 14 days of commission of the offence, or
c) a notice of intended prosecution, specifying the nature of the offence and the time and place where it is alleged to have been committed, must be served on the offender, or the registered keeper of the vehicle at the time of the offence, within 14 days of the offence.


http://www.motordefenceteam.co.uk/kn...ides/n-i-p.htm

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The most common instance where Notice is served is an NIP for speeding. However, the following offences require you to be given notice of intended prosecution:
  1. Dangerous or careless driving/cycling
  2. Speeding
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There is an NIP time limit that applies of 14 days from the offence. However, how this is calculated will depend on how the notice is given. It can be:
  1. given verbally at the time of the offence (i.e. you are stopped by the police and they inform you they are considering prosecuting), or
  2. by a formal notice of intended prosecution within 14 days of the offence at the last known address, served on the offender or the registered keeper of the vehicle, or
  3. by a summons being served on the offender within 14 days of commission of the offence.
Notice of intended prosecution is not required where
  1. a full or provisional fixed penalty notice has been given or fixed; or
  2. if you were knowingly involved in an accident at the time
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Old 16-07-09, 04:16 PM   #79
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So they have 14 days to send an NIP and that's it, no waiting 6 months.

Cool, I can live with that.
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Just note that the 14 day rule does not apply to all mototing offences, so if they intended to prosecute you for something other than speeding (ie dangerous driving) you'll need to check it out. I can't give a list of which offences apply, but I know Driving without due care NIP does not have to be served within14 days.

I got done for due care in 2003, the 14 day rule dose not apply, 6 months was the wait, and yes 6 months and 2 days latter the notice came. So if they go down that route its a long wait sorry

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