"33bhp?" Yes "i dont believe you, I'll seize your bike and take you to court"

[yorkie_chris]

They will put one end of bike on scales at a time then divide them by each other and threaten rider with court when he complains they dropped it off scales

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by timwilky

Mr Herring, you are making mischief. You are already adding additional parameters into the equation. When the professionals are saying you (certain police officers or their command structures) don't know how to measure power in the first place.

Now you add an extra dimension and I guess nobody knows how to measure that either.

Guilty as charged M'lord, although in mitigation I would like to submit that police officers do routinely weigh vehicles for evidential purposes on calibrated weighbridges.......although I'm not sure they can spot a few kgs on a motorcycle as well as a few tons on a lorry!

[timwilky]

That is because for persecutions, you are only interested in the gross weights of overloaded vehicles. strange then for exceeding power to weight ratios net weight should be the deciding factor.

[Red Herring]

Oh what a subtle typo Timwilky.....

Originally Posted by timwilky

strange then for exceeding power to weight ratios net weight should be the deciding factor.

Why is that strange? The ruling is trying establish what makes and models of bike young people can ride, and which bikes they can't.

"That bike is fine son, so long as you have a full tank of fuel at all times, and fit a top box full of cement"

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

How about something like a DRZ then. That's quite a popular bike with new riders and they must make somewhere around the 33bhp mark yet weigh in at less than 150kg? To be honest the power to weight aspect hadn't even occurred to me and I'd wager 99% of other coppers wouldn't have a clue either.

Originally Posted by mrcool

I believe they are specified slightly higher than 33bhp (40bhp), but I read of someone online who rode for 2 years no prob. becuase he was adimant that it made less than 33bhp on the dyno at the wheel, which it probely did.

Originally Posted by Red Herring

According to Google a DRZ SM weighs in at 134kg and makes 40bhp. To qualify to be ridden by a new rider the motor would have to be restricted to 28.7bhp...... Perhaps I ought to make a name for myself by finding one to seize and dyno....and weigh!

RH is bang on the money abd this issue is well covered on the Thumpertalk website because there is a lot of argument over how borderline a standard DRZ is. TBH it would be a good DRZ to make 40bhp - the 'E' models with the noisy exhaust etc that are not road legal might make that, but the 'S' and 'SM' models that are road legal make around 34. It is relatively easy to get them to 40bhp though. Either way all models fail on the power/weight ratio limit and needs limiting to 28bhp or so.

[rowdy]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

Guilty as charged M'lord, although in mitigation I would like to submit that police officers do routinely weigh vehicles for evidential purposes on calibrated weighbridges.......although I'm not sure they can spot a few kgs on a motorcycle as well as a few tons on a lorry!

And in these circumstances the driver and all passengers present at the time of the pull have to be weighed along with the vehicle.

As none of you are aware, I bought a VFR800 and it got restricted today, and I got a sticker on the chassis saying "I iz restiktud innit".

I got my SV restricted In September, and this has no sticker on the chassis. I presume that this means the officer was so misinformed that he didn't know that this scheme had only been in practice for a few months.

Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

[yorkie_chris]

Just because you got a sticker does NOT mean it is in any way a legal requirement.

FI international been giving these stickers out for at least 3 years.

[hindle8907]

what's happened with this then FB ?