It's another Poll! ;-) WIKILEAKS....

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs

America has a serious issue with them!!!

Of course.

But is that issue well founded? Ie: Wikileaks will end up doing some serious political damage and/or end up costing American lives. Or is Wikileaks doing nothing of any real consequence, other than pulling a publicity stunt?

If Wikileaks found and published the 'secret' info. My mind thinks any country with a good espionage network would have already known about it and it's just the general ignorant public that are kept in the dark.

Both.

Got to wonder how easy it'd be to slip utter crap into the information they get sent too.

Only stuff that had me wince (that I've noticed) was the China/ North Korea releases. Not that I think it'll make too much difference but I don't see the benefit of hurling dung at the wind turbine, where people are trying to make peace (to use a huge simplification) or chill a bad situation out etc. Can see it goes against there idea of no censorship as I suppose sitting on it twould throw censorship into the hands of whatever journo comes up with the scoop - and the whole who decides the greater good etc blah blah? Though isn't it something like "With knowledge comes responsibility"?

Do we really care what Prince andrew says about British Aerospace?

Celeb gossip, Intresting stuff that doesn't get published and should, and stuff it might have been better not to broadcast. Perhaps if Governments were not so secretive - or more careful they'd be less demand?

Meh - Monday

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Venom

If Wikileaks found and published the 'secret' info. My mind thinks any country with a good espionage network would have already known about it and it's just the general ignorant public that are kept in the dark.

Exactly.Which is why I generally approve of the site.If we knew a bit more about what really goes on at the top table we would tolerate far less of the carp leadership and exploitation that they get away with.
If we had more openess we wouldnt have invaded Iraq and a lot of our soldiers would be alive today who fell in Afganistan.

Just goes to show that the governments of the world are interested in privacy after all: Theirs, not ours.

Personally I find the political response sickening. There have been calls from senior politicians to have Assange assassinated, and there has obviously been considerable pressure applied to EasyDNS, PayPal, Amazon et al. Fox news (I was abroad and it was the only english language news channel I could get) are happily calling Assange a rapist (not proven, nor even charged), a terrorist, and that Obama should "go get him."

There is nothing hugely surprising so far, but confirms a number of things that you may suspect. Nobody has died, and these are not Top Secret documents so they are not likely to.

[andrewsmith]

Originally Posted by simesb

Just goes to show that the governments of the world are interested in privacy after all: Theirs, not ours.

Personally I find the political response sickening. There have been calls from senior politicians to have Assange assassinated, and there has obviously been considerable pressure applied to EasyDNS, PayPal, Amazon et al. Fox news (I was abroad and it was the only english language news channel I could get) are happily calling Assange a rapist (not proven, nor even charged), a terrorist, and that Obama should "go get him."

There is nothing hugely surprising so far, but confirms a number of things that you may suspect. Nobody has died, and these are not Top Secret documents so they are not likely to.

Well Fox News has a proven track record of making S*** up! they made up that Bush Jr had won and everyone else followed.

Personally companies should put there weight behind Wiki leaks as it will be personal privacy and corperate privacy.
Don't boycott Amazon, boycott America they are the problem

Originally Posted by Sosha

Though isn't it something like "With knowledge comes responsibility"?

With great power comes great responsibility?

[Richie]

I think the CIA is behind it all....

[the_lone_wolf]

The whole thing, especially the release of the list of important US worldwide locations, reminds me of that guy who posted his sister's f**k list on facebook. If you don't want people to know it don't compile it

You cannot contain information, the only way to do so is not to tell anyone and then the information is pointless to have...

Wikileaks does more than release US secrets, it's a universal whistleblowers resource that can, and does, release information about bad private companies as well. It's only when they do something the US makes a big deal about that we hear it in the mainstream media.

All the posturing by the US with shrill calls about endangering forces or encouraging terror is, until they produce evidence to the contrary, hyperbole used to distract people from the truth that the two faced nature of the political world is being laid bare.

So, I'm a resounding "good work" vote. I do question the public good done by releasing a list such as the one they did today, but WL approached the US to agree on releasing redacted versions where national security was at risk, the US flat out refused and demanded the return of the cables so as far as I'm concerned they're now reaping the seeds they sowed through unilateral foreign policy and lax security.

Sadly, instead of doing what they promised the people who vote them into power, and encouraging transparent government, they are focussing on how they can stop such a leak happening again, the complete opposite...

most of the stuff i thinks fair game eg opinions of people etc but im slightly miffed they have just anounced that everyone should come and blow up my work as its vital to the yanks, cheers for that ******** i now work in a target rich soft target area now with a big ****ing bullseye on top, at least before i could shot back now i can just duck, law to let civiy's have firearms please would be helpful