It's another Poll! ;-) WIKILEAKS....

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by SmudgeK3

Would that not be a nanny state then? they are us!

Yep! But some of the people in this country need a nanny...

Originally Posted by simesb

We need it leaked, because the governments are saying one thing but doing another and denying it.

Example, recent stuff?

I can't get into the Wikileaks & secrecy stuff and have any credibility, I don't know enough about it, but I do disagree with this.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

We elect people to represent us and do what we think they should do

We elect people not just to represent us, but also to run the country 'on our behalf', because we agree with the basic principles behind how they said they would do it, but we are not capable of actually doing it ourselves.

I'm an expert in understanding business requirements, designing IT solutions to meet those requirements, then selling them into the customer's business. I can do a better job of that than any politician! But I am not an expert in any way shape or form, in running any part of a country, so I elect somebody who understands it and can do it for me.

Amongst my customers who get it badly wrong, are those who outsource their IT to a service provider, then try to dictate to that service provider how the service should be run.

The expression "letting the kids run the kindergarten" is very valid when it comes to government, and in some instances whether we voted for the government in office or not, we have to realise that we are the kids.

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by specialone

We all have our own views i guess and bigger or smaller fish to fry, but me, you or any civi flapping about stuff aint gonna change a damn thing.

+1
You could say we could have our say through the vote but.....

Originally Posted by kaivalagi

Yep! But some of the people in this country need a nanny...

lol but that nanny is a greedy bitch!!!

Bl00dy hell it moved on three pages whilst I was typing!

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by specialone

We all have our own views i guess and bigger or smaller fish to fry, but me, you or any civi flapping about stuff aint gonna change a damn thing.

+1
You could say we could have our say through the vote but.....

edit: meaning it doesn't matter which party is in we would still have these secrecy issues

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Bl00dy hell it moved on three pages whilst I was typing!

My fault Col

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by specialone

Example, recent stuff?

US coercing Spain into awarding a £200m military contract to GE when legitimately it should have gone to BAE

Released today in the cables, if you were looking...

[kaivalagi]

Originally Posted by SmudgeK3

lol but that nanny is a greedy bitch!!!

Tell me about it! She needs to work harder for the money I reckon...or take a bl00dy pay cut