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16-01-13, 05:16 PM | #41 | |
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Re: Abba stand are they worth the money?
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OP asks if Abbas are good and in general the response is they are expensive but more useful than a rear stand and if you get one for a different bike you can get the correct adapters. - Useful advice - You come back with why don't you just make one. I suspect 90% of us on here would not be able to do that but you can (good for you) Nothing to stop you also knocking up a front lift too based on that just being a bunch of tubing too. You then continue to point out that the components that make an abba stand cost less than an abba stand. The same can be said of pretty much everything that is assembled. To say that it should cost no more than the cost of it's component parts is a daft statement. So yes I was having a bit of a poke about your responses but that was in response to this thread and this thread alone. Just consider that most of the folks on here are not scrapheap challenge types and just want to know whether to buy product A or B. Personally I use an Abba and a headstock stand, they work well for me and for those that have borrowed them. Should they get stolen I'd buy them again. Not going to get into a fight about it, no biggie, unsubscribing etc etc etc.
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16-01-13, 05:23 PM | #42 |
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Re: Abba stand are they worth the money?
I use my Abba stand alot and consider I've had my money's worth. I've got two sets of adapters - for the SV and RGV - one from each set also lifts the Fireblade so I didn't need to buy a new set of adapters. I've got the footpeg bolts for swingarm removal which means you can lift pretty much anything.
Worth the money? Dunno. If the question was, does it do what it's supposed to then it undoubtedly does. You then just need to decide if you'll use it enough to justify parting with the brass. "Value for money" or "worth it" is entirely subjective (and fairly dependent on how much money you've got) but surely it's not surprising that it costs more than the sum of its parts? As simple as it is, someone had to invent the thing, get a patent on it, spend money getting it ready for market with no certain return, set up a business, market the product, see off some competition along the way. That's what the extra margin is for. You can copy their product for cheaper but that doesn't make them a rip off IMO. I've not been averse to using bits of wood, step ladders, bags of compost and ratchet straps to get the job done, but by the time I've lashed up some Heath Robinson affair I could have had the bike on the Abba stand and be half way through a brew. It's worth it for me, but I like to tinker beyond routine maintenance. If you're going to lube the chain and change the oil then you probably won't get a lot of utility from the stand. If you're going to rebuild bikes, or even just follow the proper maintenance schedule, then it's very useful but not entirely essential. Anyway, hundred quid? I'll **** half that up the wall this Friday. |
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Re: Abba stand are they worth the money?
No, he asked if they were worth the extra money.
Where did I suggest that Disco2 should go make one? In response to the OP's question, I thought I'd said that I didn't think they represented good value for money, having given a reason why, and that I was pretty tempted to go make one for myself. Quote:
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The other thread Mark, get over it. This thread, nothing's been done to rattle your cage, grow up. |
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16-01-13, 06:00 PM | #45 |
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Re: Abba stand are they worth the money?
Got the fitting kit and used it to fit the lift kit I had bought.
Found the stand to be excellent and held the bike nice and stable very happy with it. All in all it cost me £55 so I think ii did ok. Thanks for the replys. |
16-01-13, 06:03 PM | #46 |
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Capitalist theory would suggest that if they were significantly overpriced someone would turn up to fill the niche with a lower priced alternative.
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16-01-13, 06:06 PM | #47 |
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Or another product that beats it at the same price. Maybe somebody will. Depends exactly what ABBA have the patent on I guess.
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16-01-13, 06:13 PM | #48 |
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Do you know if there are any other products out there that will perform the same function for less?
Having had a peruse of the abba website it appears that there wasn't in 1992 when he started but I wouldn't think they'd be able to patent something so simple in its entirety, although obviously they COULD patent bits and bobs. |
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NWS Ulti-Pro
They made all kinds of paddock stands, but the Ulti Pro was basically just another big G-clamp type design. The company was sold and the buyer had no interest in continuing to make motorcycle stands, discontinued the whole range. |
16-01-13, 07:08 PM | #50 |
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Re: Abba stand are they worth the money?
like any tool you get what you pay for. i have never heard anyone say they have broken their abba stand and to me that says it all. they do what they were designed to do very very well and like all good tools you only buy it once.
when i got mine it was delivered with a bent stay and with one phone call i had another at my door the next day then via email they organized a courier to pick up the bent one, all this was FOC. as for an increase in price, well the price of the raw material has gone up so the end product goes up. they have to pay wages, BOC contract fees, lighting, heat, rates, plant, building rent, insurance and make a profit. yes i could have gone down the workshop and made myself one in fact i could have made a stainless steel one (and i'm very capable of doing so) and saved a bundle but why bother when you can help keep a member of the British public in employment. yes they are very easy to make and have a few design faults but that's due to ease of manufacture than anything. why make life hard when you don't need to and pizzing about with Heath Robinson contraptions to save a few £. buy cheap buy twice. the biggest thing i can say about the abba stand compared to other stands is that it's safer to use and you no longer have to do the paddock stand shuffle. |
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