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Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I normally find that its those sort of people that have 6 month old bikes, with matching leathers, and mahoosive chicken strips and no low speed control...

The same sort of rider that is Fast on the internet but you go on a ride with them and then hold you up as they cant corner...

i support your observations! I once overheard a guy talking about his R1, how he had to order in the tank logo from malaysia cos they do them bigger etc etc bull crap bullcrap. His chicken-strips were as big as mine (my chicken strips on the bandit have got smaller than thos on the SV, ooo nice rear shock) and his chain was in an appaling, awefull, terrible state.

Me and maria turned up to boxhill once, and we were both quite terrified we'd get involed in an accident, all these people turning up and really hammering it round the carpark to look cool and sound loud and all this, but they just made it a really bad place to be

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ethariel

At the end of things, an accident is what it says on the tin, just an accident.

No, that's why they're called collisions now. They are always someone's fault.

Originally Posted by Stu

No, that's why they're called collisions now. They are always someone's fault.

Everything is always someones fault now. My boss will shortly be suing you for causing me to waste work time by posting in reply. Its YOUR fault!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by ranathari

What's that got to do with anything? He's talking about the average joe thinking they've got anything near the skills of high level racers, which would include those able to do endurance racing.

It seems like all your posts in this thread are trying to defend your preference for high speed riding rather than just acknowledging what everyone's saying, which is that those guys were riding faster than the conditions allowed and it's not surprising it ended tragically.

Somebody said
"GP racers are the best in the world, they race for 45 minutes. Therefore nobody else can ride fast for more than 45 minutes"

My own preferences are against people with holier-than-thou attitudes and "anybody going slower than me is an idiot, anybody going faster than me is a lunatic".

Undoubtedly these guys picked the wrong time and place, but since when should that get in the way of a good arguement?

Seen the video up until the point of him getting knocked off, only saw one stupidish thing done whilst going along and thats when the guy overtakes his mate on the inside, but that really isn't that bad. Okay so doing 170mph isn't the best idea yeah.

His overtake was not very well planned out at all. Typical straightliner out for a ride really. Got it wrong. Can't chalk this one off as experience unfortunately.

hate that attitude that theres no such things as accidents. Plod's love to hang on to this one. Basically you could go as far to say that with anything that happens you can always blame someone but then we might as well never leave the house. It was prob a bit stupid to do that speed but so what. We all take risks everyday. Its life

An accident's anything that wasn't avoidable, which is why this wasn't an accident.

Originally Posted by ranathari

An accident's anything that wasn't avoidable, which is why this wasn't an accident.

If the car had've seen the bloke on the bike, they woulda avoided pulling out...aka SMIDSY, aka Accident. Yet that then raises the question, when did the car look out for the bike, cos he dropped the hammer and was halfway through acceleration and was certainly shifting and making his manouver from fairly far off, the car coulda maybe thought he will still be where I just saw him, however he wasn't.

I'm saying it's only an accident if it was completely unavoidable. SMIDSY is not an accident because it's avoidable if car drivers pay more attention before making a manoeuvre or if bike riders make themselves more visible.

Originally Posted by ranathari

I'm saying it's only an accident if it was completely unavoidable. SMIDSY is not an accident because it's avoidable if car drivers pay more attention before making a manoeuvre or if bike riders make themselves more visible.

So SMIDSY Stands for Sorry mate I pulled out on you purposely?
An 'accidental' slip of attention, surely not?