The End Is Nigh!!

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

I think with the tempurature, the high temps will be within the particle beam itself; the whole of the particle accelorator has superconducting magnets that have to be cooled by liquid helium (so we're talkin down to a temp of 2 K above absolute zero, or -271 deg.C) which will very quickly cool down any heat given out. Also, the particle accelerator will be a vacum, so heat wont readily transmit (except only by radiation....not really by the normal particles-flying-about-all-over-the-place) so outside of the particle beam itself it won't be as hot (relativly speaking)

Anyway, thats sort of what I gather from a quick google

so what you are saying really is: dont stick your hand in it!

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

except only by radiation....not really by the normal particles-flying-about-all-over-the-place

Excuse me sir, but isn't the "normal particles-flying-about-all-over-the-place" in fact how radiation of heat works? Energy spread by particles moving through air etc, and consequent collisions?

Also, at multiple thousands of times the temperature of the sun, liquid helium will probably heat sufficiently to turn into a gas, if not be completely vapourised.

But hey - if it blows up France I for one won't worry too much...

... and if it's gonna suck the rest of us in - well - at least we're close enough that we won't have to worry about it for long.

Originally Posted by K

... and if it's gonna suck the rest of us in - well - at least we're close enough that we won't have to worry about it for long.

You don't know how an interaction with a black whole happens then.

Basically, time slows down, and everything is ripped apart as it's stretched excessively. Nice.

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

SOme fear has been raised that black holes will be formed that will consume our planet...

My GF is mightily ****ed off. It's her 21st on the 12th

Mind you, the reaction of the scientists was "If it doesn't end the world, great. If it DOES who'll ever know"

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

Also, theyl observe soemthing else they don't quite understand, and suspect thre to be yet another elusive particle...

Isn't science great

Originally Posted by Baph

Excuse me sir, but isn't the "normal particles-flying-about-all-over-the-place" in fact how radiation of heat works? Energy spread by particles moving through air etc, and consequent collisions?

Also, at multiple thousands of times the temperature of the sun, liquid helium will probably heat sufficiently to turn into a gas, if not be completely vapourised.

they also vibrate, the engery of which is lost by emmiting radiation....more specificaly, infra-red

I still cant see how they'll keep it cool either by the way, but i bet what i said has something to do with it


someone with more cleverness sort this out

Temperatures like that are contained within electromagnetic fields rather than a material as such. same as the stuff they use in fission research. in this case i think the heat will be in such small quantity that as Alipnestars has said, the tube itself will be enough to dissapate the heat.

speaking as a scientist, we very rarely know exactly what will happen when a new experement kicks of, but I'd hope if there was a possibility of engulfing the planet in a black hole someone, somewhere would have done their homework!

Originally Posted by Baph

You don't know how an interaction with a black whole happens then.

Basically, time slows down, and everything is ripped apart as it's stretched excessively. Nice.

Oh yeah - (says I remembering the bit in the film 'The Black Hole' ) in that case I shall take it all laying down...

... it'd be nice to be a bit taller.

Originally Posted by philbut

speaking as a scientist, we very rarely know exactly what will happen when a new experement kicks of, but I'd hope if there was a possibility of engulfing the planet in a black hole someone, somewhere would have done their homework!

I hope to gods (thats metallica) they didnt confuse units

"uh oh....I had this number in as 134....shoulda been 134 x 10^-6"

Or had a jont European / US team working on it " I though we were working in inches???" shuttle disaster II anyone!