Wet weather braking.

by the time you "progress" the brake back, your in the ass of the car cutting accross you.

Hold up has someone changed the posts over to a new thread?

Front braking while turning is easy aslong as you do it on the know how and sensibly, use it quite often TBH, I have had the odd slide been a bit hot or too aggresive on the lever, you live and learn if you do it safely.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

Well done on passing your test, now get out there and start building your riding skills.



Bad advice, I'd say learn to use the front brake in a controlled manner that won't lock it up. Most of your braking is on the front, use the rear only and you're asking for trouble. You'll be surprised at just how effective a front brake can be in the wet if you are smooth and controlled on the lever. Just make sure all your braking is done in a straight line when it's wet, don't try braking hard whilst leant over.

So bad, that can I please request a mod to delete the bad advice?

Originally Posted by Daimo

by the time you "progress" the brake back, your in the ass of the car cutting accross you.

You saying there's no option but fall off?
If you go to 100% braking in an instant, you're stuffed. Progressive doesn't mean slow. Yanking the brakes right on won't you stop you any quicker than using them only to limit of grip which is available, and in fact, if you haven't allowed full weight transference you'll never get 100% stopping power onto the road. That's why you have to be quick but smooth, not just give a panicked tug/press.

[the_lone_wolf]

back brake only? you must be high - i use the front brake all the time in the wet, from moist days to full on rainstorms, it's still much much stronger than the rear and, as pointed out, if you don't grab at it or make sudden changes in power it works just fine. using front and back together in the right ratio is ideal, but most of the stopping power still comes from the front no matter what the weather...

Originally Posted by sinbad

You saying there's no option but fall off?
If you go to 100% braking in an instant, you're stuffed. Progressive doesn't mean slow. Yanking the brakes right on won't you stop you any quicker than using them only to limit of grip which is available, and in fact, if you haven't allowed full weight transference you'll never get 100% stopping power onto the road. That's why you have to be quick but smooth, not just give a panicked tug/press.

8 years and im still learning to do it. I get a daily/weekly test of it too. (london commuter).

Totally agree with everything your saying, but its the instant reaction you need to fight.

Originally Posted by Daimo

8 years and im still learning to do it. I get a daily/weekly test of it too. (london commuter).

Totally agree with everything your saying, but its the instant reaction you need to fight.

Apologies for the preachy tone, it wasn't intended.

[yorkie_chris]

Same as a few areas, the natural reaction will leave you on your ars!

You don't have to totally avoid the front brake, but a bit more forward planning and greater use of engine braking is a good plan IMO

When I first rode a bike, discs on the front or rear werent as common as they are now, consequently I learnt to use the back brake first to initially get the speed reducing and use the front brakes to do the bulk of the braking after that point,even do the same now, can control the back end under braking more than the front, I know Im probably wrong to do it that way but I think every braking situation has to looked at on its own merits.....ill get me coat

Originally Posted by stewie

When I first rode a bike, discs on the front or rear werent as common as they are now, consequently I learnt to use the back brake first to initially get the speed reducing and use the front brakes to do the bulk of the braking after that point,even do the same now, can control the back end under braking more than the front, I know Im probably wrong to do it that way but I think every braking situation has to looked at on its own merits.....ill get me coat

There is a school of thought that says that in a panic situation you should bang the rear brake on hard a split second before the front. The reasoning is that it pulls the back of the bike down so there's not as much weight transfer to the front wheel when you hit the front brakes hard, which in turn will lessen the likelihood of the front locking up. They reckon that rear brakes being as bad as they normally are, you won't lock it up if you apply the fronts directly afterwards. I can understand the theory, but I've been riding far too long to think about putting it into practice when the situation arises.

Maybe I should take my old CBR6 out to a deserted access road I know and do some braking tests and practice. You're never too old to learn new skills.