Adoption, abortion and IVF: Discuss

I'm with Stu on his post - Abortion is killing another life IMHO...

It has always been my view that Abortion is a very very wrong thing, the question got asked to me at school, fair enough was the reply to my answer, the next question slightly baffled me and took me into a dilemma I couldn't get to the answer "At what point do you decide that it is a life Stuart?" It still bugs me today that question.

I just feel that it is the wrong thing to do. Yes fair enough there are circumstances where its not your fault you got pregnant, so on and so forth but my view on it in a similar situation to Paws's cousins situation would be (Laura I am not directing this at your cousin BTW) - your mess, deal with it. I would.

My girlfriend has had the scare that she thought she was pregnant, she knows how I was on the subject, and knew what I would say, its one thing that can really knock you back and take a good look at things, I was prepared to do anything to be able to let a child into this world if I had to.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Spot the scientist (I'm in the same boat; don't worry )

Personally; you should be completely free to do what you want. People should be taught to be responsible rather than laws coming in to control childbirth. Once that level of control comes in, even Orwell would express his surprise.

Thankyou kind sir

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

IVF should only be available privately IMO. The NHS is barely able to adequately deal with the necessities of saving lives and aleviating suffering (which is what it was set up for), without it being additionally burdened with having to provide luxuries. I am definately pro-adoption.

+1 yep, some people are designed not to have kids, accept that, or if you cant yep it should have to be funded privetly. Unless, through some kind of ilness or accident conception naturally is hindered then IVF should be concidered on the NHS

Originally Posted by neio79

yeah!!

I also se an argument for given the woman the choice for aborting if the kid is going to be severly physically or mentaly disabled or both. I mean what sort of life would it have or the parents from that point on??

thats a good point; if there is nobody to care for the child properly, then its just going to suffer.

This could open up another can of worms about euthunasia (sp)

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

IVF should only be available privately IMO. The NHS is barely able to adequately deal with the necessities of saving lives and aleviating suffering (which is what it was set up for), without it being additionally burdened with having to provide luxuries. I am definately pro-adoption.

Funny isnt it, how the NHS will pay for IVF, but the Neo Natal unit that looked after my neice when she was born very prematurely is mostly funded I think by charitable donation and fund raising...

I'm pro choice, but from what I've seen in my personal circumstances is that abortion should never been seen as an easy way to solve the problem as it can leave behind terrible emotional scars.

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

This could open up another can of worms about euthunasia (sp)

Don't take me back to the days at school with R.E, I was crap at it, can you tell

Originally Posted by plowsie

"At what point do you decide that it is a life Stuart?" It still bugs me today that question.

I would say where the baby could survive naturally outside the womb!

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

but from what I've seen in my personal circumstances is that abortion should never been seen as an easy way to solve the problem as it can leave behind terrible emotional scars.

I agree with that Fizz

Pro choice, pro adoption.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I'm pro choice, but from what I've seen in my personal circumstances is that abortion should never been seen as an easy way to solve the problem as it can leave behind terrible emotional scars.

There was a girl at my school who admitted to me she became pregnant, and had to have it aborted (she was 15). She did it all secretly, and enlisted the help of another adult to pose as her relative I think so there was that "legal gaurdian" there to say it was ok. But yea, she felt terribly guilty about it