Is this my fault?

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by BanditPat

Its only illegal to enter a chervroned piece of carriageway if there is a solid line separating the marked area from the main carriage way if he crossed a dashed white line then he was legal to do so.

Actually if we want to get really technical the only area of hatchings that's it's a specific offence to enter are those that contain chevrons, not straight lines as in this photo. The Chevron ones are most commonly found on dual carriageways/Motorways where slip roads enter/leave/merge and they are road markings intended to direct the flow of traffic. Hatchings such as that shown in the photo are used as traffic calming measures and it makes no difference if they are bordered with a solid or broken line, entering them is not prohibited under any legislation however their is guidance in the Highway Code (as posted by Northwind) and to go in contravention of this may leave you vulnerable is something goes wrong, as it has in this case.

The onus is on the driver entering the major road to give way, however they will have some powerful mitigation which the insurance companies will most certainly take into account.

Ouch. Glad you're alright. This is something I'm always really nervous of when going past a queue of traffic even going the otherway - that someone is going to suddenly emerge from the line of cars on the right into my path.

bit of a gray area?

same happened to me, and the other guy admited fault when it happened, i was expecting him to change his mind, but all went smoothly

good luck



edit, just looked at your pic, not sure now, as a car decided to do U turn in front of me, but you were filtering past a junction, which may be classed a bit worse?

[G]

Its one of those things, I would have expected someone to pull out of any gap to be honest.

Fact is most car drivers are 99% oblivious to bikes on the road, if someone flashes them out they presume it is clear.

[fastdruid]

Originally Posted by G

Its one of those things, I would have expected someone to pull out of any gap to be honest.

IMO, this is one where you are *technically* in the right but you should have expected an idiot and been more careful.

You were unlucky, he should have looked and he *was* in the wrong but you could have avoided it by assuming there was going to be an idiot.

Fact is most car drivers are 99% oblivious to bikes on the road, if someone flashes them out they presume it is clear.

Yes *but* the highway code specifically says something like "do not assume it to be clear" and while the highway code is not the be all and end all it is a good indication of where blame is going to be laid. IIRC it also mentions looking out for motorcyclists under these very conditions.

Here we go

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Take extra care at junctions. You should
watch out for cyclists, motorcyclists, powered wheelchairs/mobility scooters and pedestrians as they are not always easy to see. Be aware that they may not have seen or heard you if you are approaching from behind

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It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.

Also I'd make it clear you were filtering and *not* overtaking, there is IMO a major difference between the two.

Druid

If I was the car driver I think I'd be feeling pretty confident right now.

[Stingo]

The 'Filtering letter' (sticky at the top of the section) might be of assistance.