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Old 16-10-09, 09:27 PM   #11
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that 'slightly' stuff sounds like bullsh*t to me.. Check it yourself. If it feels like it needs fixing, fix it. My car failed the MOT last year due to defective wipers. The garage wanted £16 to 'fix' it. The damn things just needed a wipe over and then it passed. But I'm a cynic..
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Old 16-10-09, 09:41 PM   #12
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If they were trying to con him I would have thought they would have failed it rather than advised him it needed doing
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Old 16-10-09, 09:41 PM   #13
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Interesting, how much did the MOT cost by the way?

There is a difference between failing for no real reason and giving an advisory, where they are saying its passed but covering themselves by saying those things will need fixing soon, whether they do the work or someone else
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Old 16-10-09, 09:46 PM   #14
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I know of a tester, (Amanda M's brother) who gave himself an advisory.

At the end of the day it is what it says, advising that something needs doing. It is not in a condition where it fails to meet the MOT requirement, but you need to address it.
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Old 16-10-09, 09:51 PM   #15
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If I understand things correctly, the authorities are coming down hard on MOT testers, "one strike and you're out" if they get anything wrong, and they are issuing advisories on all sorts of things now to cover themselves a bit.

There has been a discussion started on this topic in another forum, one bike had an advisory on "steering angle limit" when it is completely standard. Today I've fitted some new rear brake pads to a friends Vectra, they had an advisory at the MOT a couple of weeks ago. The new pad friction material is about 9mm thick, the old "advised" ones were 5mm thick, a bit premature I reckon. I suspect we'll see more and more of this. Basically if it's not brand new it'll get an advisory because it's worn.

Having said that, if wheel or steering head bearings are notchy they need replacing.
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Old 16-10-09, 09:55 PM   #16
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Sorry if I'm going slightly off topic but am I going insane or is it possibly for steering to feel a bit loose and to start turning into corner's prematurely? There's no notchiness or movement in the steering but I just get that slight feeling something int quite right.
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Old 16-10-09, 09:56 PM   #17
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If they were trying to con him I would have thought they would have failed it rather than advised him it needed doing
Not saying they were trying to con him. Just trying to justify £30 for a 15min job.
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Old 16-10-09, 10:00 PM   #18
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1 strike and you're out? Rubbish.

Advisories are being used more and more because fewer people have cars serviced regularly and the mechanics already know that.

A common misconception amongst the general motoring public is that an MOT means the vehicle is fit for the next 12 months, whereas actually its only right during the time of the MOT.

If the customer decides to replace an advised item straight away without getting a second opinion then thats down to them. The brake pipes have been advised on my car for the last 2 tests and I know they are still suitable for use.

I think we're actually lucky that more and more testers are willing to use the advisory, as they know there is a fault that isnt bad enough to fail, but want to draw the customers attention to it, if they didnt - imagine the state it could be in in 12 months time.

This is normally far more prevalent in car testing than bike testing. Bike testers tend to be bikers and, in a sense, more liable to give the benefit of doubt to the vehicle presenter

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1 strike and you're out? Rubbish.

Advisories are being used more and more because fewer people have cars serviced regularly and the mechanics already know that.

A common misconception amongst the general motoring public is that an MOT means the vehicle is fit for the next 12 months, whereas actually its only right during the time of the MOT.

If the customer decides to replace an advised item straight away without getting a second opinion then thats down to them. The brake pipes have been advised on my car for the last 2 tests and I know they are still suitable for use.

I think we're actually lucky that more and more testers are willing to use the advisory, as they know there is a fault that isnt bad enough to fail, but want to draw the customers attention to it, if they didnt - imagine the state it could be in in 12 months time.

This is normally far more prevalent in car testing than bike testing. Bike testers tend to be bikers and, in a sense, more liable to give the benefit of doubt to the vehicle presenter

*puts soap box away
you are probably right. The few times I have let garages do 'routine' jobs on my cars I have had the sensation of being ripped off.
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Old 16-10-09, 11:57 PM   #20
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Just got the bike back from its MOT and it had an advisory notice, can anyone help explain what they all mean?!

1. Front Wheel bearings are slightly rough
2. Steering headbearing has slight free play
3. Swivel Plate - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'
4. Wheel Raised - Steering movement slightly 'notchy'

Any help!?
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front Wheel raised is the easy way to test head bearings, but it only tests the top bearing which is less stressed than the bottom bearing, so is unlikely to reveal a problem.
Putting the front wheel on a swivel plate keeps the weight of the bike resting on the bottom bearing just as it is in use and is more likely to reveal a problem*


*well in my case anyway
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