pay cut

yes i have a written contract, but it is the policies that are in place that are changing.
i understand the need to make paycuts, and although it makes me mad i understand the reasons behind it, but the driving side i can't get my head round. If i was traveling to one place on a daily basis i could understand, but when i could be sent anywhere in the country and expected to travel outside of my working/paid hours for no extra money seems wrong, especially as we have always been paid before.

Citizens advice bureau?

Specialone is right in a way, if you have a contract then you have to agree with the pay cut, problem is if you dont then you effectively terminate your contact anyway but then you should get paid redundancy.
As for your travelling they should pay your business mileage but dont have to pay you. It's a change to their t&c they can do it im sorry to say

Source= hr advisor

Originally Posted by Stenno

Citizens advice bureau?

This is the best bit of advice on this page so far. Go speak to people who can put you in touch with someone who knows exactly what they are talking about. Take your contract with you.

[Dave20046]

I'd speak to management before CAB tbh, just make sure you're clear on things/try come to an arrangement?
Ask them if this means you are required back to the office at 4pm each day (i.e downing tools early) if they're not paying overtime (which is essentially what they've said re. the driving/travel time side of things if I understand correctly).

thanks for all the different thoughts guys, got a meeting tomo so will try and get them to listen to me and see if we can sort something out.

[keith_d]

Originally Posted by Terah

Have to say I think it's a shame so many people have this opinion. As Bri said some companies are really struggling now and lowering staff costs is the only way to continue operating.

When a company reaches the point that it needs to cut salaries to stay afloat the employees have to make a guess about whether the company will make it. It's a guess, not an informed decision because we don't really know how close to the edge the company is.

Most of us need a steady source of income to pay the rent/mortgage. In the current climate it's going to be hard to find another job, so if my current job started looking risky I would have to start looking elsewhere. It's not a "stuff you, I'm leaving" decision at all. It's a decision born of necessity.

[flymo]

personally if it were me I would weigh up the various aspects of the job, what you like about it and what you dont. Not forgetting that for many people the aim of going to work is to earn enough to fund your chosen lifestyle.

If it didn't live up to expectations I would move on. If you enjoy the job and have a desire to stay (be honest with yourself about this) then request some time with your boss, explain what the changes mean to you both motivationally and financially and see what happens. If you dont see the response that you need, look for a replacement. Plenty of work out there.

Salary - theys should consult with you and pit the proposal on the table and advise you. If you don't like it they can dis engage your present contract under the legal time and re enagage you in your new contract. Its forcing you to either take the job or make your self jobless (means no payment re redundancy and 8 week wait before you can apply for benefits)

commute to work - sorry but that is your responsibility the only way I know that you get payment for this is if the company moves you offices and the mileage is now longer - but its not a right.

Business miles - that is company specific - though it should be in your contract what you should get. I get a lump sum and 45p mile (well waiting for confirmation on that)
Though - our working hours ar 7am-9pm so that affects any overtime.

Are the policies changing to reflect the cuts? becuase the crux basically the company can do what it doing legally.
In an ideal world you would get paid for your mileage within the hours your are contracted to do (ie 7-4)
To expect you take wear and tear on your own private car and the hit of business insurance without some payment is slightly unfair but not uncommon. T&C's are beeing hammered at the moment

read the policies and the new contracts very carefully and I sympathise with it I have just taken a cut of 33%

i may of not explained the travel side of this properly, the travel is done in a company van so milage wear and tear etc is not an issue, i don't expect payment for getting to the office/yard for 7am, and likewise wouldn't expect payment for travelling home from the yard at 4pm, but fact that i could be any where in the country at 4pm when my pay stops and that i'm then expected to travel (in many cases) an unreasonable distance home in my own time with no pay makes my blood boil..... i mean would you get a job say 120 miles from home and travel it for no pay???