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View Poll Results: Would you "microship" your kids?
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Old 03-10-12, 09:56 AM   #11
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Default Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?

Hong, the 'spate of kidnappings' still accounts for less than 1 millionth of the child population (approx). So if you want to protect against all 1 in a millionth scenarios or greater, I will happily start a list:

- Getting run over (wrap in bubble wrap or put in inflatable sphere)
- Falling out of trees (permanent harness and rope attachment)
- Drowning when swimming (install bionic lungs)
- Getting struck by lighting (apply rubber skull cap)
- Being stabbed or otherwise murdered on the streets (flak jackets)

The list goes on ...
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Old 03-10-12, 09:56 AM   #12
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Old 03-10-12, 10:04 AM   #13
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You did ask for opinions so I presented mine.
In this situation I would wait outside the school and give these guys a good kick in.

Kids being run over is also life threatening and pretty common so the solution to save a few lives would be to not allow the remaining 10 million children play out!
Yep - and I'm not slating you for it! But could you really wait outside the school every single day in case it happens?

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In the event of an abduction I suspect the only thing an implanted tracker guarantees is an injury from a home surgery attempt at removal, or possibly several if it can't be located immediately, plus maybe gangrene or perhaps bleeding to death, anyway I don't think a hospital visit will be on the kidnappers agenda.

One downside of mass media is the erroneous sense that rare occurrences are commonplace, and that extreme circumstances are realistic fears. We've never lived in safer times and as a society we've never been more paranoid.
Very good points - if it became common place then yes I'd imagine it could cause more issues if "home removal" were attempted.

While I agree on the second point, in this case I do so with reservation. Please explain if known abductors are roaming about looking for targets shouldn't be cause for fear/worry?

The main uproar so to speak is not about something happening in a town hundred of miles away, but within a small community in a town. I dont think mass media has much to play in this part?

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Totally agree with both points.

In addition it is our responsibility as parents/guardians etc to teach our children the skills that are necessary to keep themselves as far as possible out of danger. Even very young kids can learn that going off with strangers is the wrong thing to do.
If we've chipped our kids then it's something else to blame if something goes wrong.
Yes Sal but kids are just that much more easily manipulated or misguided, however sensible they may normally be. Also physically weaker to resist being picked up and lobbed in the back of a van.

Am I coming across as an over-paranoid parent here?
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Old 03-10-12, 10:08 AM   #14
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Totally agree with both points.

In addition it is our responsibility as parents/guardians etc to teach our children the skills that are necessary to keep themselves as far as possible out of danger. Even very young kids can learn that going off with strangers is the wrong thing to do.
If we've chipped our kids then it's something else to blame if something goes wrong.
Do you not see it as a technological safety advancement, like sterilising, or stair gates or plug covers,

Ill sit on the fence on this one, but I couldn't blame parents for having it done, would I do it ... dunno I like my pointy fence..
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Hong, the 'spate of kidnappings' still accounts for less than 1 millionth of the child population (approx). So if you want to protect against all 1 in a millionth scenarios or greater, I will happily start a list:

- Getting run over (wrap in bubble wrap or put in inflatable sphere)
- Falling out of trees (permanent harness and rope attachment)
- Drowning when swimming (install bionic lungs)
- Getting struck by lighting (apply rubber skull cap)
- Being stabbed or otherwise murdered on the streets (flak jackets)

The list goes on ...
I am fully aware that this is probably going to come across as clouded judgement but:

These reports from the last year til now are all from the same town, and the most recent happening at the school my son attends.

Stats dont look so pacifying now right?
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Are you chipping to find them , in which case you would need some sort of power source that would be give a strong enough signal. If you intend to chip them for id purposes like a cat or a dog you would need people to scan each and every child out and about which would possibly cause invasion of privacy and data protection issues.

The idea of chipping / tracking children should not be a solution that absolves the parents / guardians of care and responsibility. There are risks out there no matter how small and as an adult its your responsibility is to assess the situation.
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To all the people who say no, please answer this:

Is your opinion the same for the elderly or people who have otherwise reduced capability to look after themselves who already have these fitted? (not implants of course, but portable ones which can detect falls, locate, alarm, etc)
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Are you chipping to find them , in which case you would need some sort of power source that would be give a strong enough signal. If you intend to chip them for id purposes like a cat or a dog you would need people to scan each and every child out and about which would possibly cause invasion of privacy and data protection issues.

The idea of chipping / tracking children should not be a solution that absolves the parents / guardians of care and responsibility. There are risks out there no matter how small and as an adult its your responsibility is to assess the situation.
We are definitely talking for location only in this scenario, and yes there are technological barriers I am aware of - I am merely hypothesising.

Not talking about ID'ing each child and scanning them, no.
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As with the elderly do they not have a choice to have them / use them as opposed to chipping which is semi permanent. I guess tagging them like criminals might give children the wrong idea
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Old 03-10-12, 10:19 AM   #20
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there is a bit of a simple solution to this but it takes dedication from parents.

adult watch. adults are placed at points along the way to/from the school to watch the kids. adults are equipped with panic horns and mobile phones. you could even get your local neighbourhood watch to join in and look out windows.

also educating the kids to make as much fuss as possible in the event and to be made aware to look out for situations.
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