clutchless downshifts ?????

Originally Posted by jonboy

I can certainly downshift without the clutch and still blip the throttle, you've just got to be ultra-precise. Is there any point to it? Not really 'though it's handy when I'm on the mobile...


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Just going off at a complete tangent, I once got called on the mobile while I was in the car driving home and was asked if I was on the bike or not

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Originally Posted by M65

Just going off at a complete tangent, I once got called on the mobile while I was in the car driving home and was asked if I was on the bike or not

Think my zx6r manual says not to down shift without clutch as it will cause mechanical problems with the transmission....will check it tonight

Going the opposite way - clutchless upshifts. I tried this a few weeks ago and it wouldn't change, the lever just felt solid. Do you have to be really caning it to do?

revs tend to have to be quite high for smoothness, on my anyways

Originally Posted by steveo

Going the opposite way - clutchless upshifts. I tried this a few weeks ago and it wouldn't change, the lever just felt solid. Do you have to be really caning it to do?

Clutchless upshifting is usually only an advantage if you are caning it and want to change up that bit quicker. I usually ease of the throttle, kick the lever and back on the throttle again, all as quickly as possible.

Hmm, ok, maybe i need a little more commitment to the cause!

And yeah i realise where the advantages lie, i just thought i would try it a bit lower down the rev range to start off with as i don't know what would happen etc. As it happened all that occurred was some fairly hard engine braking!

I only clutchless downshift when I'm riding with a broken clutch cable.
Hasn't happened yet on the SV.Touches wood!!

Originally Posted by steveo

Hmm, ok, maybe i need a little more commitment to the cause!

Actually, you might need less committment, if you get my drift......

If you're accelerating hard then you might need to easy off the gas a bit to take the "strain" out the transmission and match the revs to the next higher gear.

Try putting pressure on the pedal and then easing off the gas a tad - should snick in nicely, then back on the gas.

In my (admittedly limited) experience, one needs to do both and it's a matter of timing.

I was shutting off the gas completely before trying to shift gear which may be where i was going wrong. May try it on the way home as the weather and roads seem ok even though its a little cold.

Incidentally i was behind a Hornet with twin akraprovic pipes this morning, sounded lovely

Cheers