Relay problem

Hi cheers for all the relies. Sorry about the quality but you should be able to make out what is going on.

85 was connected to the live from the battery
30 was connected to the live for the grips and the cigarette lighter (now removed)
87 to the feed for the rear light cluster
86 back to the battery

Is this correct?

I have been dealing with the Banbury branch but the oxford branch originally advised me of the fitting order.

There was also a fuse between the battery and the relay and a fuse in the hot grips wire, does this have an effect.

Sorry for being stupid but am I correct in saying that the relay shouldn't get hot when the bike is not in use.

I might have misunderstood the guy in the shop but he didn’t explain think well, it took me three attempts to tell him that I didn't want the switch that he was trying to sell because I already had one and it didn't solve the problem.

Also I wired the negatives of both devices back to the battery, was this correct

OK, nearly done.

Wire as follows-
85 Rear light cluster Positive supply
86 Negative feed anywhere - straight on to the battery terminal is ideal.
30 Positive supply through your fuse from the battery Positive terminal.
87 Supply out from the relay to your hot grips Positive supply connection.

No big deal if you mix up 30 and 87, as long as the other two are correct.

The fuses are always a good idea, and have no affect on the operation under normal circumstances.

This should get you going in jig time mate!

The way it was wired meant the relay coil was always energised, draining the battery over time. However the supply to the hot grips was coming from the rear lights! Thats why the grips stopped working when the bike was switched off!!! Have to say, I'm a little supprised you didn't blow a fuse with this arrangement...Should be OK though.

Originally Posted by Philbo

OK, nearly done.

Wire as follows-
85 Rear light cluster Positive supply
86 Negative feed anywhere - straight on to the battery terminal is ideal.
30 Positive supply through your fuse from the battery Positive terminal.
87 Supply out from the relay to your hot grips Positive supply connection.

No big deal if you mix up 30 and 87, as long as the other two are correct.

The fuses are always a good idea, and have no affect on the operation under normal circumstances.

This should get you going in jig time mate!

The way it was wired meant the relay coil was always energised, draining the battery over time. However the supply to the hot grips was coming from the rear lights! Thats why the grips stopped working when the bike was switched off!!! Have to say, I'm a little supprised you didn't blow a fuse with this arrangement...Should be OK though.

Cheers mate, i actually bought a new identical relay and fitted as per your instruction, works a treat only got heat in the right places when I want it. Will take maplins advice more carefully in the future. Have your self a virtual beer, many thanks.

Originally Posted by tomjones2

Cheers mate, i actually bought a new identical relay and fitted as per your instruction, works a treat only got heat in the right places when I want it. Will take maplins advice more carefully in the future. Have your self a virtual beer, many thanks.

Glad to hear that it's sorted fella.

I've also passed your p*ss poor instructions (supplied by Maplin) on to the regional manager. It might interest you to know that their company policy is that they are not allowed to advise customers how to wire components of any kind, regardless of their background or knowledge. They are supposed to advise customers to call the technical helpline that's printed on the receipt (or used to be before they got the new laser printers).

Please remind the staff about this next time you're in the store, and thank them heartily for flattening your bike battery (though they'll claim immunity due to the above policy).

Mind, I never did agree with that policy, and disregarded it at every possible opportunity.

Originally Posted by Baph

Glad to hear that it's sorted fella.

I've also passed your p*ss poor instructions (supplied by Maplin) on to the regional manager. It might interest you to know that their company policy is that they are not allowed to advise customers how to wire components of any kind, regardless of their background or knowledge. They are supposed to advise customers to call the technical helpline that's printed on the receipt (or used to be before they got the new laser printers).

Please remind the staff about this next time you're in the store, and thank them heartily for flattening your bike battery (though they'll claim immunity due to the above policy).

Mind, I never did agree with that policy, and disregarded it at every possible opportunity.

It seems a shame that shop people shouldnt give out instructions, but on the same note they need to know what there talking about. The guy and banbury did wind me up because he completly failed to understand what I wanted, and failed to recommend the right soultion and didn't seem to know how to wire the simple relay despite recomending another more complicated one. I did double check the instruction both on the phone and when i fitted them so i sure the mistake wasn't mine.

Many thanks again Baph,