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Old 29-05-08, 09:35 AM   #21
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Default Re: Blipping the throttle.

As Pete says in his OP, going into a corner Im usually in the correct gear well before - and if I have to brake hard then Ive not used my forward obs enough - (that's what Ive been taught during advance training )

I had a convo about this subject with the 'ol man last night about it and he reckons he has always done the blipping thing naturally - I asked why and he mumbled something about "shoving more oil up the bores" !! so much for useful explanations - Pete's and Seggons' are far more explanatory so thanks guys I will bear in mind and maybe give it a go
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Old 29-05-08, 09:45 AM   #22
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People, a word of advice, it can come with a bit of practice, don't do what I have seen someone do, blip the throttle but either forget to apply the clutch or let the clutch out to early, it can give you the fright of your life apparently lol. I can blip my throttle for clutchless downchanges now but I have been known to get it wrong also.
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Old 29-05-08, 09:47 AM   #23
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I dont bother, because i havea slipper clutch that does it for me
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Old 29-05-08, 09:51 AM   #24
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I have done it since shortly after passing my test. My new bike doesn't have a slipper clutch but I still blip - makes for smoother gear changes and somehow seems more mechanically sound.

I had a zx6r for a while, which had a slipper clutch. I found that I had to REALLY push it to get the slipper to activate, I mean intentionally drop a gear or even two gears from pretty high revs and release the clutch quickly. Not the sort of thing I'd be doing on an everyday ride - more a spirited blast or on the track. However, I was blipping the throttle on gear changes still out of habit and it seemed to make changing more smooth. So even with a slipper I think I'd blip; if that makes sense?
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Old 29-05-08, 09:54 AM   #25
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Default Re: Blipping the throttle.

Ive just had a thought - is it the same as double de-clutching a car (like in the olden days!)
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Old 29-05-08, 10:02 AM   #26
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I have never found a problem with downchanging without blipping on either the ZX6R or my old SV, i dont see as it adds much purpose at all reall, as even if you change down two gears at high speed with a blip if you dont have a slipper clutch the rear will still lock up.

And as mentioned the slipper will sort that out for you if you have one. to me its one more thing to think about i don t need to when riding.
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Old 29-05-08, 10:06 AM   #27
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Ive just had a thought - is it the same as double de-clutching a car (like in the olden days!)
Well kinda, the revving of the engine bit is but you don't release the clutch whilst doing it. This is due to the difference between car and bike gearboxes. A bike gearbox is 'constant mesh', i.e the gears are always engaged and there is no neutral between gears. On are car you have neutral between the gears and this is the point where you engage the clutch and blip the engine on a car.

The desired outcome is the same, speeding up the engine revs to match the speed of the gear you are changing down to. This allows the gear to engage more smoothly and no jerking / lurching when the clutch is released.
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Old 29-05-08, 10:10 AM   #28
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Default Re: Blipping the throttle.

A slipper clutch only affects when the clutch is released and the engine braking affects the wheel. Doesn't actually smooth the shift itself out.

The back wheel skipping on the SV is quite entertaining too
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Old 29-05-08, 10:13 AM   #29
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A slipper clutch only affects when the clutch is released and the engine braking affects the wheel. Doesn't actually smooth the shift itself out.

The back wheel skipping on the SV is quite entertaining too
true, I still never found a problem with the smoothness of a change that blipping solved , as if you still cluch up to quick, blip or not the rear wil lock on the SV.

And try as i might the Kwaks rear wont lock
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Old 29-05-08, 10:13 AM   #30
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I do, same reasons.
Although because I to it so often, it's almost become habit and I even do it when going slowly and really don't need to
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