Adoption, abortion and IVF: Discuss

Originally Posted by neio79

I would say where the baby could survive naturally outside the womb!

But then theres the living inside off what its mother gets nutrients from also and doh........ Don't get me started

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

This could open up another can of worms about euthunasia (sp)

yeah i am pro that as well, i mean i would rather be dead than stuck paralysed unable to speak or see, or if the best life i could ask for was to be a cabbage, I would rather be dead!

And i think People should be able to state that if they are going to end up like that they are not to be kept alive.

Originally Posted by neio79

I would say where the baby could survive naturally outside the womb!

is that, breathe on its own etc etc without the aid of machines?

Originally Posted by neio79

yeah i am pro that as well, i mean i would rather be dead than stuck paralysed unable to speak or see, or if the best life i could ask for was to be a cabbage, I would rather be dead!

And i think People should be able to state that if they are going to end up like that they are not to be kept alive.

I think the same. I know that if I was e.g. paralysed form the neck down, I would have no life - the quality would be too significantly reduced for me to want to live; no ridign bikes, no playing guitar, no moshing, nothing like that. What a terrible waste of an Alpinestarhero.

I suppose there is a fine line between suicide and euthanasia though. When does one become the other?

Originally Posted by Tara

I agree with that Fizz

+1 too

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

is that, breathe on its own etc etc without the aid of machines?

yes, i mean where if it was born and you left it would it breath and live like ful term babys do .

[Messie]

I feel very strongly that choice is THE most important thing, in all aspects of the questions posed.

Abortion may be seen as wrong or unacceptable by some people because of thier own personal beliefs but in my opinion is HAS to be one of the choices available to a woman/girl who becomes pregnant in unfavourable circumstances.

That is not the same as saying abortion should be easy or used as a form of contraception; just that it should be there as an option without judgement or pain.

IVF is a complex issue. I know from a good friend the psychological anguish of not being able to have a child naturally. Why set an upper age limit. nature may do for women but it doesn't for men. If you see IVF as some form of luxury health care then I'd ask you to consider the costs of treatment for preventable conditions brought about by not good lifestyle choices (smoking, drinking, overeating perhaps)

Just my opinion, of course

[Stu]

Originally Posted by plowsie

I'm with Stu on his post - Abortion is killing another life IMHO...

It would be hypocritical of me not to point out that I am pro choice, but would much prefer that abortions didn't have to happen.
I just take offence at advice given to someone who's willing to give the greatest gift of adoption, that they should have aborted instead.

I'm sorry, I probably don't know enough about the strains on the NHS argument over IVF shouldn't just be for the rich argument to have a strong view on this, but I would prefer it not to be a drain on the NHS.

If someone wants to clone me a Dannie Minogue, you have my full support

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

If someone wants to clone me a Dannie Minogue, you have my full support

To the laboratory!!

pro choice. if you cant offer a child a good start and support it as it needs to be etc