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Old 28-10-09, 02:43 PM   #21
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I posted something on the 8th October Recorded, and its still not got there! Also a graphics card i ordered 3 months ago still hasnt arrived. Probably both sitting in some southlondon sorting office under a pile saying 'To Do'.

Dont even start me on the fact that the overpaid tube workers may go on strike because they dont think that £35k a year, 2 months holiday and a 35 hour week is enough for sitting on thier ass all day moving a lever and pushing 3 buttons!
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Old 28-10-09, 03:01 PM   #22
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I'm a fan of a fair day's wage for a fair day's work as well. It's one of the things I liked very much about being a contractor - it was an hourly rate, you work longer, they pay more. However as a staffer, I recognise that sometimes you have a give a little extra to help oil the wheels of profit. You evidently do as well. If we are lucky we have a boss who recognises this and repays the extra effort somehow when they can. I'm sorry that you have been / are being screwed over on that.

BUT the RM situation seems to me that the changes are not huge or onerous, hardly worth striking over. My 'real world' comment was to point up that most of us in our working lives make similar compromises without resorting to striking to bitch about it. I think this is particularly dumb when your employer is threatened with going out of business due to competition, which RM is. It may be that the posties believe that RM will not be allowed to go bust by government and therefore feel they can strike and still have a job / company to go back to. They may just have a rude awakening.
hey its life for me - i shouldn't work for local government yet can't find another job to move too and the sad thing is i know whats coming i've been on the restructuring panels as union rep.
Personally i think that striking could be the nail in the coffin for RM and it a shame that it has resorted to this.
i must admit that they will do what they want and who knows how it will come out. i hope its resolved and i'm glad i didn't go for the christmas vacancies this year.
as for my comment I'm still bitchy about the whole thing. tho i still have appeal board to go against but i'm a still miffed. but theres enough at work so i must stop getting riled. bad for the BP

as an aside my post absymal due to crappy security entrances not working so its as normal for us - ironic ain't it!
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Old 28-10-09, 04:04 PM   #23
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Royal Mail is an overstaffed inefficient company with massive fiscal problems that would be dead and buried by the competition if it wasnt protected by law.

Those striking need a savage beating. Why do they expect the rest of the country to pay inflated postage prices (and taxes to cover their pension bill, especially if nothing changes soon) to keep them in a job when we don't need half of them to do it, especially when lots of other people are losing theirs?
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Old 28-10-09, 04:11 PM   #24
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Royal Mail is an overstaffed inefficient company with massive fiscal problems that would be dead and buried by the competition if it wasnt protected by law.

Those striking need a savage beating. Why do they expect the rest of the country to pay inflated postage prices (and taxes to cover their pension bill, especially if nothing changes soon) to keep them in a job when we don't need half of them to do it, especially when lots of other people are losing theirs?
Excuse me? Do you know what ur on about?
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Old 28-10-09, 04:16 PM   #25
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Which to be honest, is going to be the best thing, I have noticed in the past few months that the Polish work so hard and have pride in their jobs.
Hiring European workers caused this recession population explosion at a quicker rate to the employment growth, young people cant get a job because the European's will do the same job at the same rate with "training" as an electrician the european standards of work are well below the standard of working in the uk so what is the point in hiring them do the job properly!
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royal mail staff should be paid overtime if they did it but they just dont want to do any over time, and its not like they have a difficult job, i work as a parcel sorter for city link because of this recession, and may i ask wtf are they complaining about?
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Old 28-10-09, 04:25 PM   #26
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Hiring European workers caused this recession population explosion at a quicker rate to the employment growth, young people cant get a job because the European's will do the same job at the same rate with "training" as an electrician the european standards of work are well below the standard of working in the uk so what is the point in hiring them do the job properly!
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I'm struggling to read what you have said there mate (punctuation). If I read it correctly, why have you bothered quoting me?
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Old 28-10-09, 05:01 PM   #27
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Royal Mail is an overstaffed inefficient company with massive fiscal problems that would be dead and buried by the competition if it wasnt protected by law.

Those striking need a savage beating. Why do they expect the rest of the country to pay inflated postage prices (and taxes to cover their pension bill, especially if nothing changes soon) to keep them in a job when we don't need half of them to do it, especially when lots of other people are losing theirs?
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Old 28-10-09, 05:06 PM   #28
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Sqiz does have a point there. we can send parcels cheaper via private courrier than we can using parcel farce or the royal mail. It gets 99.9% the next day and it tracked form door to door. Standard 1st class has risen about 4 times in as many years, where it stayed the smae price for ages.

As for the post office. Sadly its a fact of life that there is a lot of jobs that are done by humnas, that could easily be done by machines. Its the sign of the times. Im in this boat where technology is replacing what i do. What can i do about it, nothing. Its progress
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Old 28-10-09, 05:24 PM   #29
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Royal mail will go down the tubes when its privatised regardless of striking or not striking. When you're getting your mail at 5.30 in the evening (if not already) then maybe you'll start to see why the posties are striking.
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Old 28-10-09, 05:27 PM   #30
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When you're getting your mail at 5.30 in the evening (if not already) then maybe you'll start to see why the posties are striking.
This strike is not about protecting services, but protecting outdated working practices and pay / pensions. At least it is in all the commentary I have read / heard.
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