Recommendation for Accident claim Lawyer

[Juju]

My recommendation for any accident claim solicitor is generally "take up blindfolded chainsaw juggling".

Q - What do you call a dead accident solicitor at the bottom of the ocean?

a - A good start!


Q - What do you call 1000 dead accident solicitors at the bottom of the ocean?

a - Acceptable marine pollution.

Ouch...

Someone upset you, Juju?

[Juju]

Originally Posted by Ed

Ouch...

Someone upset you, Juju?

Lol - about 40 times a day. I work for a motor insurer in a PI claims department!

And yes, I am horribly one eyed about these things! I guess its that my father was a solicitor (a real one) 20 years ago, when they were still on a par with Doctors & Bank Managers and gave out best advice.

I have also worked as a manager of a "Solicitors Property Shop", and made sure I did things totally honestly and above board.

These days, it seems they just operate largely as lackeys for a biased, dishonest and frankly systemically fraudulent process, usually with the agenda of recovering as much for the instructing referrer than the poor sod with the injury and broken bike.

Sure the world needs skilled PI lawyers for genuine injuries, but all these idiots "upselling" trivial scuffs with promises of cash, issuing at corrupt courts like Birkenhead, and recovering huge hire claims and the usual associated "storage and recovery", and the claims monkeys they employ, just really get me down.

There are still a few decent guys out there, but the number diminishes daily as these big PI facotry farms and "specialist" solicitors get on board.

I worry that half the time, their nwnf instructions mean that just becasue one side doesnt want to go to court, (an uninjured driver) that the injured biker isn't learning from the accident in the way they should, with a legal eagle pushing them along.

I see that even with criminal law, we need to test the police, ensure due process exists, and that anyone should get representation, but people who deal with modern PI are truely at the very bottom of the pond.

I actually am dealing with a couple of matters which have been well reported (I mean frequently, not accurately or honestly) in MCN, and I just worry about the tone set by these people.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Juju

Lol - about 40 times a day. I work for a motor insurer in a PI claims department!

And yes, I am horribly one eyed about these things! I guess its that my father was a solicitor (a real one) 20 years ago, when they were still on a par with Doctors & Bank Managers and gave out best advice.

I have also worked as a manager of a "Solicitors Property Shop", and made sure I did things totally honestly and above board.

These days, it seems they just operate largely as lackeys for a biased, dishonest and frankly systemically fraudulent process, usually with the agenda of recovering as much for the instructing referrer than the poor sod with the injury and broken bike.

Sure the world needs skilled PI lawyers for genuine injuries, but all these idiots "upselling" trivial scuffs with promises of cash, issuing at corrupt courts like Birkenhead, and recovering huge hire claims and the usual associated "storage and recovery", and the claims monkeys they employ, just really get me down.

There are still a few decent guys out there, but the number diminishes daily as these big PI facotry farms and "specialist" solicitors get on board.

I worry that half the time, their nwnf instructions mean that just becasue one side doesnt want to go to court, (an uninjured driver) that the injured biker isn't learning from the accident in the way they should, with a legal eagle pushing them along.

I see that even with criminal law, we need to test the police, ensure due process exists, and that anyone should get representation, but people who deal with modern PI are truely at the very bottom of the pond.

I actually am dealing with a couple of matters which have been well reported (I mean frequently, not accurately or honestly) in MCN, and I just worry about the tone set by these people.

Well maybe if the lying stinking uninjured drivers of this world didn't lie and cheat their way out of a claim, and instead held up their hands at the start of the process and say that they were at fault when they were, the biker wouldn't need to take a hire bike until the claim was settled and over inflate their PI claim out of spite

[Juju]

Originally Posted by Stu

Well maybe if the lying stinking uninjured drivers of this world didn't lie and cheat their way out of a claim, and instead held up their hands at the start of the process and say that they were at fault when they were, the biker wouldn't need to take a hire bike until the claim was settled and over inflate their PI claim out of spite

I see what your essentially saying, but its rather like the old adage of people blaming estate agents for "gazumping" when its actually the sellers of a house that do it, just the agents who have to break the bad news.

People don't always appreciate why they are at fault, and often percieve wrongs and injustices on the part of the other driver. The insurers have a difficulty that often they would like to pay, but a party won't aauthorise them to do so, until they've "had their say". The process of discussing liability also needs to be fair, honest and transparant, people need to know why they're at fault, have it explained to them.

But becasue someone wants to excercise their legal right to dispute who's fault an incident was, doesn't mean punishing the insurers is a particularly correct way of doing things. I know we work really hard to try and resolve liability quickly, and at work are gearing up to the forthcoming Ministry of Justice reforms that suggest we should try for less than 5 days.

The simple truth is people who say are tpf&t, don't even realise they should report, as they're not "getting any benefit" themselves from their insurance, and don't realise third parties can claim directly themselves, rather than going through their own insurance first.

At the end of the day, a disputed claim that loses, is a lost opportunity and a cliam that settles for far more than it should have done so.

The other thing is that insurers always get blamed for delays, when half the time, its not them responsible for the delay. You go to an accident management co, who uplift, store and arrange an engineers report. - All they will do before "racking up fat fees" for themselves is ascertain there is a policy to claim from. Sometimes we don't get reports for weeks after an accident, and I know some outfits will deliberately send things to the "wrong offices" to elongate hte process.

Typically, an insurer will send out an engineer who reports straight back to the insurer with the pre accident value, and the insurers will just raise a cheque to get youin funds. If you agree thats great, if not, bank as an interim. However, an accident management co will appoint an engineer, who inspects, sends his report to the solicitors, who send it to you to approve. You then send it back to the solicitors, who then send it to the insurer - theres several days "convenient but lucrative" delay straight away. And how come no one whos "not at fault" ever could store a vehicle on their driveway/garage free of charge, when an accidewnt management co will do the same for you for £18 per day. Who in their right mind would pay that to park a damaged bike if they could do so for free? Its all apert of the scam that your premiums pay for. Insurers are pretty pawerless to dispute this stuff, this systemised semi fraud, as the courts are so claimant biased.

Every extra day stringing out a cliam, when you are on a hire bike, is another £70-80 per day profit for the hire co, and £18 for the storage yard, so why would they hurry for you? But you query why its taking the time, and they just blithely tell you "well its inspected and a reports on its way".

no win no fee that's fine for them they can just sod off afterward's but guess who'll get stuck with the fee's if you lose.

[Stu]

Juju
I hear what you're saying
What would be good would be for liability to be established first before costs are racked up - impractical I know. Then if the at fault insurers could provide the storage, the hire bike etc. so that they were in control to minimise the costs.
Fantasy land I know

Originally Posted by zsv650

no win no fee that's fine for them they can just sod off afterward's but guess who'll get stuck with the fee's if you lose.

Your solicitor earns no fee & the other sides are covered by ATE ins. Do keep up