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Old 04-05-10, 02:37 PM   #21
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Default Re: What ever happened to the BASAT requirement?

Fair enough only posting advice on stuff you know about. But not on shooting people down for giving advice just cus they arent the "usual" people that give advice....Contrary to some peoples beliefs on here, other people in the world do know more than them and there is always more than one way of doing things

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Old 04-05-10, 02:39 PM   #22
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If somebody gives advice which they heard somewhere/read from unknown source without being able to back it up with logic or experience then they had best get ready for an e-shoeing unless they add the caveat that they don't really know.
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Old 04-05-10, 02:44 PM   #23
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how exactly are people meant to submit said experience?
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Old 04-05-10, 02:44 PM   #24
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lol, i might put a disclaimer in my sig.
"Any advice I give is not worth the pixels its made up from. Feel free to follow it but I wouldnt."

Rofl, no seriously I might put that in there I quite like it.
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Old 04-05-10, 04:32 PM   #25
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Default Re: What ever happened to the BASAT requirement?

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But not on shooting people down for giving advice just cus they arent the "usual" people that give advice.
When did anyone say that? Anyone and everyone is more than welcome to say anything they like. The point of the forum tech sections is the dissemination of information, asking and answering questions is its exact reason for existing. If it's not a useful or suitably experienced* answer it can do more harm than good.
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Contrary to some peoples beliefs on here, other people in the world do know more than them and there is always more than one way of doing things
I'm not telepathic and thus have not been able to discern the beliefs of others at a distance, but I sincerely doubt anyone who posts on here regularly thinks that they alone are the final arbiter of matters technical, and yes, there are some tasks that can be achieved in more than one way, but not many.

The simple fact, and it is a fact whatever you may personally feel, is that some of the advice given on this forum, (and others), is poor, some of it tragically so. Giving advice when you don't know what you're doing can be, and let's be plain about this, dangerous. No-one wants that I'm sure, but sometimes it seems that enthusiasm exceeds understanding. I'm quite certain that no-one knowingly gives poor advice, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Post away, (that's why it's here), at the very least add the caveat of your personal experience - that's just good manners.

*This doesn't solely mean professional experience, if you have carried out a given task and found along your way the tips and pitfalls that may ease or trap the unwary, post away - that's good and useful experience.
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Old 04-05-10, 05:22 PM   #26
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how exactly are people meant to submit said experience?
Easy, observe;

a: "how do I do x job?"

b: (either)
"When I did this job I found..."
"I've done loads of these and they're always a c*** of a job because of..."
"The manual says..."
"When I had this done by somebody else..."
"I've heard/read..."

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Old 04-05-10, 05:25 PM   #27
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Default Re: What ever happened to the BASAT requirement?

To be fair,the real howlers tend to be quickly corrected here.
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Old 05-05-10, 12:15 PM   #28
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This is a forum, anyone can post (nearly) anything. Most do it with good intentions, but if they are talking carp correct them! It would be rather dull round here if people restricted themselves to professional qualifications or quoted books etc. in support of their statements.

When I post, I often look up in Haynes, old bike mags, Wikipedia etc. but by no stretch of the imagination am I a good mechanic. Barely competent more like. By posting carp and being put right I have learned as well as the OP.

It should be stated that advice from people you don't know and trust should always be taken with a pinch of salt, and common sense applied at all times!
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Old 05-05-10, 12:36 PM   #29
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every time i have asked for advice i have been given it. especially on my mates daytona(pce of carp) and i can appreciate that it can be nearly impossible to diagnose a problem from up to 200 miles away but people try! as to people that offer advice incorrectly.... someone advised them once or they did it themselves and it worked.or they are complete twits. either way its up to the askee to extract what would be useful
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