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![]() Also, it's too easy for folk sentenced to it to just not turn up and then get a slap on the wrist.... |
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Personally, I would do away with giving cash for benefits and give vouchers instead, I work beside a bookies and an offies and the place is full of those with nothing to do and all day to do it. |
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And another thing, here in NI we were forced to give the most experienced police forced redundancy and recruit new officers based on religion, a great many applicants were excluded on the basis of where they went on a sunday and many people joined purely as a career move, the fact that the "Top Brass" of the PSNI are originally from other forces and have little experience of the unique policing situation we have here, whilst perfectly capable and experienced officers were pensioned off, says it all.
This ain't an anti cop rant, as most do their best, but they are hamstrung by political correctness and inadequate leadership. |
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Solution to it all (inc many flaws in my logic).
Sign every 16yr old and above up to forced employment, from litter picking to local council restoration work - painting bollards etc. I literally mean everyone is put on a form of register for work but then certain things classify you as exempt. Current full time employment = Exempt Current full time education = Exempt Current part time eductation PLUS part time employment = Exempt Current registered carer = Exempt Current registered disabled = Exempt Im sure there would need to be other exemptions that I've not considered but for now at least if you're not covered in the above catagories then you must attend this forced labour. Not only that but failure to do so means no money for that month. If you're scheduled to attend and are able to prove you're unsuitable for work for what ever reason then fair enough you'll get your benifits but if you're unable to provide a vailid reason for failure to attend then this failure to comply means failure to get paid. Your loss, no exceptions. In my idealogical mind this works 2 fold, Part one is it flushes out all the "dole dossers" as they've been refered in this thread. Then Part 2 is it should reduce the amount of litter/damage caused in the first place as IMO the very people who are currently causing the mess will with this solution be the ones cleaning it up. It'll force people into having a little local pride if they fear it may well be them who are cleaning it up the following day. Of course you may be thinking, but those who then dont attend and dont get paid will then resort to crime to get money... The punishment for lesser crimes becomes more substantial work in other areas of the country for a short period where visitation and socialisation rights are denied. Think a sort of chain gang style where you're monitored, oh and you dont get paid for that either, again no exceptions. Last edited by Owenski; 14-07-11 at 09:27 AM. |
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If you are in a position where you don't need to work in order to live then the forced labour thing is wrong. |
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An option of National Service for "Community Employment" sounds like a plan. Although I have to say this is sounding a little Austrian Dictator. Where do you draw the line with forced anything.
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It would not be forced anyway, the current system is fundamentally flawed. People get money for doing absolutely nothing. If they want the dole money they should work for it. Most of us have to work for our money, that is not considered forced. |
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The idea been that no-one would aim for or choose to live with the forced labour, this would encourage those who could work properly to actually go out and get a job where they'd earn more money than doing the dog poo work involved with forced labour. Last edited by Owenski; 14-07-11 at 09:54 AM. |
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If you wish to collect dole money then you work for it, if you do not turn up you do not get money. People should not get something for nothing, too many people in this country believe that the state owes them a living or a quality of life... It does not, you have to work hard and earn it. Having everyone on a register for forced labour is a little '1930s Russia' for my liking Last edited by ravingdavis; 14-07-11 at 09:58 AM. |
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