Alcohol

[yorkie_chris]

Asthma can naturally lie dormant and come back at times with age but ciggy smoke can be a trigger for it.

I found asthma symptoms stopped when I was smoking, until I would catch a cold, then they'd be back with a vengeance.

[Balky001]

Most people handle drink OK with no ill effect. Most people that smoke do get some sort of health issue. However, if we are talking about excessive amounts then alcohol can have an instant (and terrible) effect on the drinker and/or others around them

So, alcohol can be very bad but not always, smoking is almost always bad but over a long period of time.

[NTECUK]

Originally Posted by Balky001

smoking is almost always bad but over a long period of time.

Trying to juggle how bad the effect is difficult .One ofgranda'sgot to 98 smoking a pipe and drank about 3 pints a day .Alzimers meesed him up in the end.
'Tuther one made 87,no sooner did one fag go out the next was lit.
He died of throat cancer so was the fags that was likely responsible.
But he had nearly all his marbles.
So Did he get the ballance wrong???

My dad did not smoke or anybody else in the house but my mun died riddled with cancer at 46 with a prolonged illness. A non drinker and a none smoker
Grandad 97 on the other hand smoked a drank all his life and died of a massive heart attack while making a cup of tea,nothing detrimental beforehand
Life seems to be the hand you are dealt.

Cigarettes CAN be a trigger for cancer to grow, as can alcohol and many other things we do in life. They can often trigger nothing too. Go figure!

[Shawthing]

Quote ' Alcohol, the cause of and solution to, all of life's problems. '
Homer Simpson

[5hort5]

Depends on how much you drink, if you go home and drink beer like water every night then that's probably to much. If you have the odd drink then its fine unless the odd drink is a skin full every friday, then that's also bad. Smoking, worse than alchol unless drinking a bottle of wine a night or multiple cans in which case they are both V bad.

(Says the bloke who gave up smoking 4 months ago and also gave up alchol to ensure he gave up smoking. Becks Blue is the way forward I do like a nice cold beer when I get home )

Intersting thing happened when I stopped drinking full fat beer and smoking at the same time .... I have lost a stone in weight even though I was eating more, guess that Carling really does have a lot of sugar.

[sniff]

I dont drink very often. When I do I want to go home after 3 or 4 pints. Had my first beers last Thursday since Christmas day. Dont think I'll have another until my Birthday in middle of March. Then again I doubt really if I will drink. SHould be at Donnington for BSB testing.

One thing that annoys me is the media calling it "binge drinking" Funny that we have been drinking on Friday and Saturday night for the last 500 years. But cos its the 21st century we need to make up some crap to blame someone else for peoples drinking habbits.

I do smke too but then again being a boring gimp I need something to do without all the beers or any other hobbies.

[Littlepeahead]

One part of Chelmsford town centre is a no-go zone on a Friday and Saturday night now if you want to enjoy a drink in a bar. It's full of teenagers and those in their early 20s who get pretty pi$$ed up before they even go into town and they continue drinking until 2am or later. The fighting, puking, peeing in the street anti social behaviour is nasty - and that's just the girls!

It used to be that you would go out for the evening at 8pm and the pub shut at 11pm so you never really got that horribly drunk - well not on a weekly basis,we all had the odd binge. If you wanted a big night you had to go to a nightclub, dress up smart and pay a an entrance fee to get in and if you were already drunk they didn't let you in the door.

I really think the relaxation in the opening hours of pubs has been a bad thing. The government thought that by allowing the bars to stay open longer we would become a nation of classy wine drinkers sitting in pavement bars sipping a nice Chablis like they do in Paris. Instead the A&E departments are nearly as busy as the Happy Hour focused pubs.

The bar prices (Rent, rate and duty have a big part to play in this) coupled with the massive rise in the cost of living are big causes of binge drinking. In years gone by you didn't drink before you left the house because you didn't have to as drink was quite cheap and you had enough money for the occasional blow out. Now it's getting too expensive so you get tanked up before you go out to save money, that way you only need to top up your drunkeness!