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Old 17-06-07, 07:49 PM   #21
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Fitting four pots is certainly something we'd be interested in, but would the SV master cylinder then be up to the job?
The master cylinder will be fine I'm still using mine on the SRAD front end conversion!
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The master cylinder will be fine I'm still using mine on the SRAD front end conversion!
Ditto except the srad front end bit!
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I was tempted to get some for the Sv but thought that would be overkill on standard forks and srpings

i originally changed the calipers cos the fronts were starting to seize up and i was being lazy and couldn't be bothered to strip and rebuild them!


just a thought not totally sure on it but wouldn't some calipers off a ZX9 fit? they have 90mm mounting points as do triumphs (i think )
One of the main benefits (IMO) of the four post is that they are easier to maintain.

The ZX9(if 90mm) would be similar to the SRAD(96-99) 600 calipers and even the early water cooled GSXRs ven though those were Nissin calipers.

The 'K' series are 60mm spacing. I can't remember the SVs off hand just now but the spacing is close but not close enough. 5mm or 10mm difference or there abouts.


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Fitting four pots is certainly something we'd be interested in, but would the SV master cylinder then be up to the job?
They are the same master cylinder I believe (bore is certainly the same). A little cross referencing will confirm.


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The ZX9(if 90mm) would be similar to the SRAD(96-99) 600 calipers and even the early water cooled GSXRs ven though those were Nissin calipers.

The 'K' series are 60mm spacing. I can't remember the SVs off hand just now but the spacing is close but not close enough. 5mm or 10mm difference or there abouts.

Ah i stand corrected
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Old 17-06-07, 10:22 PM   #25
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Just a thought Ben will TL 6 pots fit my SRAD front end?
Don't bother with the Tokico 6 pots, they're rubbish and not a patch on the Gixer's Tokico 4 pots (same as TL1000S 4-pots). Loads of club racers junked the 6-pots on gixer thous and fitted SRAD 4-pots instead.

If you can get your hands on them, even better 4-pots are the Nissin ones fitted to earlier Bandit 1200s. These are the same calipers also fitted to virtually every Triumph until the 1050 models.
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Don't bother with the Tokico 6 pots, they're rubbish and not a patch on the Gixer's Tokico 4 pots (same as TL1000S 4-pots). Loads of club racers junked the 6-pots on gixer thous and fitted SRAD 4-pots instead.

If you can get your hands on them, even better 4-pots are the Nissin ones fitted to earlier Bandit 1200s. These are the same calipers also fitted to virtually every Triumph until the 1050 models.
Re highlights, Lozzo are they the same four pots fitted to earlier GSXRs? which I know are interhangeable with SRAD GSXRs. Thanks.


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There are two different types of Nissin caliper fitted to Triumphs. If I recall correctly the ones fitted to yours and my bikes have (I think) 95mm spacing, but the calipers fitted to the earlier spine framed bikes have 90mm spacing. The earlier Triumph calipers are interchangeable with Gixer ones that have 90mm spacing.

Give me until Tuesday and I'll be able to tell you for certain as I'll have a spine frame Triumph with Nissin 4-pots in my garage for some work to be done. My own Daytona 955i will be in there too as will a Gixer 750 with Tokico 6 pots and next door is my housemate's ZX-9R with Tokico 4-pots fitted (her Tokico 6-pots corroded beyond repair so I sold her these ones). There's also a Bandit 1200 kicking around here with standard Nissin 4-pots - I'll get the verniers out and do some measuring up of all the calipers involved.

The Nissin calipers are far superior in build quality. Tokico leave the inner faces of their caliper bodies in bare untreated alloy, whereas Nissin 4-pots are hard black anodised all the way through, even in the piston bores and seal grooves. I've yet to have to clean any serious corrosion out of a Nissin caliper, but regularly have to strip, clean/decorrode and fit new pistons/seal kits to Tokico 4 and 6 pots.

On the subject of Tokico 6 pots, they do wear discs and warp them, usually because they drag and bind when a piston seal groove gets full of corrosion and stops the piston from returning. If you get one sticky caliper piston out of the 12, then the lever will start coming back to the bar and braking becomes a scary thing.

If you can find them, the best off the shelf calipers you can buy were fitted to some models of the Daytona 1200

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C0...28834-full.jpg

Lovely scrumptious Nissin 6 pots that work as well as the AP Racing 6 pots I had on my Gixer 1000. I'm after two sets, one for my Daytona 955i and the other set for my SV trackbike. Can I find any...can I hell.

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There are two different types of Nissin caliper fitted to Triumphs. If I recall correctly the ones fitted to yours and my bikes have (I think) 95mm spacing, but the calipers fitted to the earlier spine framed bikes have 90mm spacing. The earlier Triumph calipers are interchangeable with Gixer ones that have 90mm spacing.

Give me until Tuesday and I'll be able to tell you for certain as I'll have a spine frame Triumph in my garage for some work to be done. My own bike will be in there too and I'll get the verniers out and do some measuring up.
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If you can find them, the best off the shelf calipers you can buy were fitted to some models of the Daytona 1200

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The SRAD(Tokicos) and the early GSXR(Nissin).....well the one I've got, are indeed the same spacing and inter changeable.

It'll be nice to know/curious to know since I've got a mintish set here. Thanks.


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I have a set of the Nissins as fitted to the early Gixers sitting on my 1990 GSXR750L. I'll measure those up and compare to all the others I'll have to hand.

Expect a long post regarding brake swopability on Tuesday evening
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I have a set of the Nissins as fitted to the early Gixers sitting on my 1990 GSXR750L. I'll measure those up and compare to all the others I'll have to hand.

Expect a long post regarding brake swopability on Tuesday evening
Nice......I love finding out about parts that are compartable/interchangeable


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