Tax - Should I be allowed to ‘opt out’???

[yorkie_chris]

Seems like a bit of an idealistic plan to me, a better one would be to sack half of the civil service and find a way to stop the government and councils wasting money on silly projects. (Usually ones that cater for minority [not in racial terms] groups while ignoring the general public)

Chris

Ok, to cover a few points …

Where did the £100 a day schooling costs come from?? If you decide to have children, you have to think about the education costs … don’t people in the US have to pay 100% for HIGHER education??/ its only the next step. I’d like to think if parents had to pay for their kids education the kids might actually be forced to learn ... how many thicko - chavs come out of private schools??

Also I don’t see how a reduction in population (through less breading) would be a ‘disaster’??? We could reduce the population significantly and still have no problem surviving as a species … just the opposite … we are rapidly outgrowing our resources …

Next, why should I need a state pension??? If I have worked all my life and paid into a good pension scheme?? If I haven’t worked for a pension I perish … easy …

Basically it is down to the individual to make decisions about their life and insure/invest into areas they deem important … if you made a misjudgement, it is not like it isn’t available to you,. But it will COST you … simple …

As for food in shops … food won’t be free … the price you pay included the time for someone to make/grow/farm it AND the transport costs (plus a bit of profit obviously) … simple …

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Also I don’t see how a reduction in population (through less breading) would be a ‘disaster’??? We could reduce the population significantly and still have no problem surviving as a species … just the opposite … we are rapidly outgrowing our resources …

We could survive as a species yes, but economically we'd suffer from a rapidly dwindling population.

In the case of NI it's "pay now to benefit later".

[tigersaw]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Ok, to cover a few points …

Where did the £100 a day schooling costs come from??

It was a guess - I expect its actually higher. (Even childcare costs around £30 per day last time I heard)

Government figures show each pupil funded £4640 PA for 2005-06
Add the capita costs for the buildings, grounds, maintenance and depreciation.
Its estimated that each parent pays average £948 PA incidentala to that, for trips,kit, uniforms,books etc.

Divide by the number of days attendance PA, and it wont be far out.

A reduced amount of national insurance payable each month if you have private health care would be nice, obviously you would have to pay some national insurance as you should have to contribute towards emergency health care.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

We could survive as a species yes, but economically we'd suffer from a rapidly dwindling population.

Would we?? How can you say that? If you reduce the ‘burden’ population, then the economy doesn’t need to be as strong to support the whole surely??? It will just eventually reach a new equilibrium …

Tigersaw – we would both be guessing on costs, but suffice to say, you would end up with ‘supermarket’ type education for the ‘normal’ people and then the more expensive stuff for the truly wealthy ... but isn’t that how it works now?!!?

I don’t see my money is well spent on education at the moment when I look round the streets … these same people are getting little or no benefit from the education system anyway, so why not just cut them out and lessen the burden? Like I said, if people directly paid for education I think the kids would be encouraged to learn … and there would be less money for x-boxes, Nike shoes etc … Think about it!

Originally Posted by barryrs

A reduced amount of national insurance payable each month if you have private health care would be nice, obviously you would have to pay some national insurance as you should have to contribute towards emergency health care.

This a good idea, the tories proposed it a while back, "Passport to Health", IIRC. The idea being, more people who currently could not could consequently afford private healthcare (myself, for example). As well as the much-criticised benefit to the well off, it'd also benefit the rest of the populace, as people like myself would be treated privately and ease the burden on the NHS.

Still, the way the NHS looks set to go with loss adjusters being called in to somehow pin blame on the poor sod in hospital (and lets face it, it's not just bikers who'll suffer, even with things like cancer you can usually apportion some 'blame' to the victim) and demand they pay a slice of the cost, it's heading towards a semi-privatised industry anyway (IE lots of people would buy insurance that covered their slice of costs= effectively privitisation by stealth).

I do not see how anyone with anything other than a "self" attitude can object to contributing to the shared benefits system via taxation.

Access to many services purely by being able to afford it personally is wrong in my mind. A shared cost across the board is far more economical and much fairer on so many other aspects also.

Who's paying for the paper work of this opting out tax then?