disrespectfull?

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Big Ape has earned the right to do what he pleases.....

i cant say i agree with that,

because he has been in the army (&fought for it)does not give anyone the right to ignore this mark of respect,(i would have thought it would make you more aware of it)

if he choices to ignore it that is up to him,but cant see the relivance in ignoring it due to being in the army

but would he continue to do what he was doing, if all around him were stoped in silance ?

Originally Posted by hovis

i cant say i agree with that,

just because he has been in the army does not give anyone the right to ignore this mark of respect,(i would have thought it would make you more aware of it)

if he choices to ignore it that is up to him,but cant see the relivance in ignoring it due to being in the army

but would he continue to do what he was doing, if all around him were stoped in silance ?

I say this has been a tadge heated on occasion hasn't it? This caused me to be most hesitant before popping my head around the door.

I thnk perhaps for many the problem might lie in the ritual of the specific 2 minutes on a specific day of the year. A tradition that many today might feel outdated and so a degree of resistance is seen.

Last week here in Spain there was a bank holiday, this particular day is traditionally one where people more than usual contemplate their lost one's. It is not something that sees those that have passed away pigeon holed in to categories...i.e war dead etc. Rather than meet in town squares people will if possible visit the graves of lost one's or,(in the case of road accident losses) the scene of the accident. The key thing is that whatever people do, they do it in their own way. That does not make their "remembrance" any less sincere at all.

A guy once said to me when I was a lot younger..."Pah Remembrance Sunday and Poppies, all it is,is the glorification of war." But I think he got it so wrong. Most people who lose their lives as a result of wars, had no say in their destiny at all. Soldiers are given orders, civilians just get very unlucky or treated shockingly as in WW2. Hardly any of them would if able to, suggest that war be celebrated.


Not sure if I have made a contribution of any value or what my main point was tbh.

[dirtydog]

lets get this straight here shall we? Right the woman on the treadmill was silent, it's a minutes silence not a minute of sopping everything that you're doing so no she wasn't being disrespectfull.

Bigape has served for this country and lost friends and comrades whilst doing so, as he says he thinks about these people a lot, he doesn't need to be told that he has to pay his respects to fallen soldiers at a certain time, he will be respectfull of them for the rest of his life

Now spiderman, that is his opinion and he is entitled to it just as everyone is entitked to their opinion. Would i stop what i was doing? No and I didn't today either how ever i was silent to say stop your bike at the side of the road is just stupid and that's my opinion!

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Tell me something, did you...any of you, mark the recent Hiroshima anniversary? With a silence or anything else?

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No, but if I was on a treadmill in a Japanese gym and everyone else stopped to observe a minute's silence for it, I'd show a bit of respect and consideration, and do the same.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by leemole

spiderman look at the title of the thread and IMO you are

Your opinion and youre totaly entitled to it.

I dont go thru my life trying to be PC and middle of the road to fit in. I have my views and if you choose to think that of me then feel free to. Trust me that i wont loose any sleep over it.

Pedrosa, see that has a lot more meaning to me because its an occasion for ALL people to remember people they lost in their own ways.
if i choose to remember the life of freind my by doing cartwheels up and down a beach then noone is there to say "ooh how disrespectful"
Same way, just cos i dont sit quietly for a minute for 2 doesnt mean i dont give a sh*t, which is waht everyone seems to think i think.

Originally Posted by hovis

i cant say i agree with that,

because he has been in the army (&fought for it)does not give anyone the right to ignore this mark of respect,(i would have thought it would make you more aware of it)

if he choices to ignore it that is up to him,but cant see the relivance in ignoring it due to being in the army

but would he continue to do what he was doing, if all around him were stoped in silance ?

Tbh i dont see it as ignoring it, bigape and any other guys/girls that have served or are still serving,have to live with what they saw/heard etc for the rest of their lives-and that incs my own dad, them not observing the 2 mins of silence isnt going to take away the years of memories and thoughts these guys have near enough every single day of their lives about those they served with.
Thats my input.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

As a foreigner i dont observe the 2 mins silence either..

I wasnt born in this country and no one gave their life for ME as an individual.

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so.......... where were you born,to say this?

Originally Posted by Paws

Tbh i dont see it as ignoring it.

perhaps ignore was the wrong word to use,

Well I was work today up against as usual to get the paper work done, I looked up at the clock the 2 minutes had just ended.......

I have talked with my grandad about what happened to him, he is lucky to alive and saved a fair few people along the way. I used to go to marches as a kid, with scouts.

Well you can't make people do it, but may I suggest people have their own way of dealing with things like this. But these guys gave everything to make sure we can have a debate like this, nuff said.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by hovis

so.......... where were you born,to say this?

Uh, not here. Thats all you need to know for the purposes of this thread. The actual location is irrelevant in many ways.

Countries are the designs of men...i prefer to think of myself as a child of this planet. Born before men drew lines on maps and said "this bit is mine and its called......"

Everyone is my brother or my sister

I have been to a few conflict areas and lost one friend i knew from my regiment, I dont care what others do i observe the silence and remember all fallen for all conflicts and the lad i knew a bit more.

TBH do what you want , the only time i would get offended is if someone started gobing off that they were glad about the dead in Iraq, afgan and other places. I dont think they would be talking very well for much longer after it !