Should i feel embarressed in the company of supersport 600s? - Page 4 - SV650.org

06-12-04, 04:41 PM

[quote="Balky001 But why would (or should) anyone be embarrassed about having the fantastic SV, just like why should anyone be ashamed of having all the latest gear and bike either? Live and let live.
[/quote]

I dont have a problem with guys with new bikes/gear or anyone on an old crappy bike...

I have a problem with the guys who have a bad attitude to other bikers in that if YOU havent got the latest or the best youre not as good as they are... so when Im being judged as inferior cos I dont have the latest toy or gear thats when I get miffed....

I have to say they are few and far between but Ive met some... and yes they were at boxhill on a sunny day in their matching leather suits... these are the guys to whom biking is all about an image...

Motorcycle city were really bad with me for this... I would walk in the shop and theyd wait for the rider. The image was female = pillion. Stopped using them and went to Hein Gericke in the end.

06-12-04, 08:05 PM

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

06-12-04, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

Not almost certain it's the SV650. Actually I have a couple of tests/articles that I'll scan tonight, one wsa the SV650 vs the GSX600

07-12-04, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron_T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

Not almost certain it's the SV650. Actually I have a couple of tests/articles that I'll scan tonight, one wsa the SV650 vs the GSX600

The SV1000 is quicker 0-60 than a GSXR 1000

Obviously the GSXR 1000 disappears into the distance after that, but this would indicate to me (as a street rider) that the SV1000 is more useable than the GSXR Thou... or am I wrong <waits to be shot down in flames>

07-12-04, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinch

Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX???

Are you talking GSX600 or GSXR600

Quite a difference between the two.

07-12-04, 05:41 AM

Of course this magazine doesn't have the fastest times I have seen for an SV, but here's a SV650S vs. GSXR600

I'l dig up the other one(s) I have later

07-12-04, 10:37 AM

dude, you shouldnt feel a wuss on the SV, its a great bike.

having spent 18 months on the SV and 12 on the R6, i would say they are very different propositions, and as others have said: its down to personal preference...

re: performance
It takes more effort/ skill/ clutch slip to make the R6 pull away quickly, but once you have it sorted, you can make some REALLY fast get-aways in a flurry of revs and clutch-slip.

The SV is way easier to launch quickly...

All in all, I felt that i wanted more than the SV could offer (better perfomance, IMO better looks, better resistance to corrosion

etc) and - to me - the R6 offers it. I spent lots on my SV (suspension, performance upgrades) and was still left wanting... For me the Yamaha is a better package. The transition to the R6 was quite difficult and took a re-calibration of my brain (getting used to screaming the tits off it/ the way it delivers the power/ the speed with which it turns/ etc), but i have found it more rewarding all-round.

I KNOW for a fact that i would have been left behind at Silverstone this year if i'd been on my SV, no matter how good a rider i am/ am not. On the R6 i was giving everyone a run for their money in the corners, but there was NO WAY i could stay with/ catch a ZX10R on the straights, whupped him in the corners and braking, but he was not the best rider... (see below)

Balky001 · 07-12-04, 12:51 PM

It seems an overwhelming agreement that there's no need to be embarrassed when you ride an SV in any company, even though you may get whupped on the track by fast riders on fast bikes. So when should you be embarrassed? Well, on my of the track days I did earlier this year, everyone was walking around the paddock and having a chat and looking at the race bikes etc, but one rider caught everyone's eye. Brand new R1, in Rossi colours, leathers in Rossi colours (with leather outside the boots alla Rossi, and a AGV Rossi lid. He was really giving it the Big I Am, not acknowledging people and standing in front of the paddock for all to see. Damn, he's going to be fast, giving that much front, glad I'm in Novice. He was too. I (and 75% of the novice group) lapped him 4 times in the first full session of the day. And he was still giving it large about back end slides in the paddock, and power wheelies and how fast the R1 is that few people can tame the awesome power. Now, that's embarrassing. Not that he would know it

07-12-04, 12:57 PM

Nice!

07-12-04, 11:23 PM

18 months ago i had a YZF600 Thundercat, and have been riding for 26 years and even with the amount of No claims i have, it still cost me over £250 to insure it, so as money was a bit tite at that time, it had to go. But now with the SV650 S, i am fully comp for only £108. Bargain! But to be honest, the SV isn't much different from an IL4 until you want to ride like you dont want to see tommorrow. And how often do we ride that quick anyway. Plus i used to race Single 4stroke moto-x bikes so a more torquey bike is easier to ride for me.

07-12-04, 12:51 PM	#38
Balky001 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Leigh - on - Sea, Essex. Posts: 1,491	It seems an overwhelming agreement that there's no need to be embarrassed when you ride an SV in any company, even though you may get whupped on the track by fast riders on fast bikes. So when should you be embarrassed? Well, on my of the track days I did earlier this year, everyone was walking around the paddock and having a chat and looking at the race bikes etc, but one rider caught everyone's eye. Brand new R1, in Rossi colours, leathers in Rossi colours (with leather outside the boots alla Rossi, and a AGV Rossi lid. He was really giving it the Big I Am, not acknowledging people and standing in front of the paddock for all to see. Damn, he's going to be fast, giving that much front, glad I'm in Novice. He was too. I (and 75% of the novice group) lapped him 4 times in the first full session of the day. And he was still giving it large about back end slides in the paddock, and power wheelies and how fast the R1 is that few people can tame the awesome power. Now, that's embarrassing. Not that he would know it __________________ SV650SK3 - GSXR600K2 - GSXR750K6 - ZX636RC1H - HD Sportster 1200 - CBR600F 2012 - GSXR1000K7 - Triumph Bonneville T100 2019 - Aprilia Tuono 660

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06-12-04, 04:41 PM	#31
lynw Guest Posts: n/a	[quote="Balky001 But why would (or should) anyone be embarrassed about having the fantastic SV, just like why should anyone be ashamed of having all the latest gear and bike either? Live and let live. [/quote] I dont have a problem with guys with new bikes/gear or anyone on an old crappy bike... I have a problem with the guys who have a bad attitude to other bikers in that if YOU havent got the latest or the best youre not as good as they are... so when Im being judged as inferior cos I dont have the latest toy or gear thats when I get miffed.... I have to say they are few and far between but Ive met some... and yes they were at boxhill on a sunny day in their matching leather suits... these are the guys to whom biking is all about an image... Motorcycle city were really bad with me for this... I would walk in the shop and theyd wait for the rider. The image was female = pillion. Stopped using them and went to Hein Gericke in the end.

06-12-04, 08:05 PM	#32
Grinch Guest Posts: n/a	Also didn't I read somewhere that the 0-60 on a SV is better than on a GSX??? It just that 0-100 they walk all over us... which don't really matter as how often does that happen. Or am I getting mixed up with the SV1000 figures???

07-12-04, 05:41 AM	#36
Aaron_T Guest Posts: n/a	Of course this magazine doesn't have the fastest times I have seen for an SV, but here's a SV650S vs. GSXR600 I'l dig up the other one(s) I have later

07-12-04, 10:37 AM	#37
benHallowes Guest Posts: n/a	dude, you shouldnt feel a wuss on the SV, its a great bike. having spent 18 months on the SV and 12 on the R6, i would say they are very different propositions, and as others have said: its down to personal preference... re: performance It takes more effort/ skill/ clutch slip to make the R6 pull away quickly, but once you have it sorted, you can make some REALLY fast get-aways in a flurry of revs and clutch-slip. The SV is way easier to launch quickly... All in all, I felt that i wanted more than the SV could offer (better perfomance, IMO better looks, better resistance to corrosion etc) and - to me - the R6 offers it. I spent lots on my SV (suspension, performance upgrades) and was still left wanting... For me the Yamaha is a better package. The transition to the R6 was quite difficult and took a re-calibration of my brain (getting used to screaming the tits off it/ the way it delivers the power/ the speed with which it turns/ etc), but i have found it more rewarding all-round. I KNOW for a fact that i would have been left behind at Silverstone this year if i'd been on my SV, no matter how good a rider i am/ am not. On the R6 i was giving everyone a run for their money in the corners, but there was NO WAY i could stay with/ catch a ZX10R on the straights, whupped him in the corners and braking, but he was not the best rider... (see below)

07-12-04, 11:23 PM	#40
SV Stu Guest Posts: n/a	18 months ago i had a YZF600 Thundercat, and have been riding for 26 years and even with the amount of No claims i have, it still cost me over £250 to insure it, so as money was a bit tite at that time, it had to go. But now with the SV650 S, i am fully comp for only £108. Bargain! But to be honest, the SV isn't much different from an IL4 until you want to ride like you dont want to see tommorrow. And how often do we ride that quick anyway. Plus i used to race Single 4stroke moto-x bikes so a more torquey bike is easier to ride for me.