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06-01-14, 09:56 AM | #41 |
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Re: Police cause SV650 to crash...
If the CPS hold evidence against you that they intend to use in a prosecution, you are entitled to a copy in order to prepare your defence. That's probably how they got the video.
The bikes are not faultless, they were going far too fast for the conditions. The copper has probably been stopping slower motorists that way all day long, but as soon as the copper saw 90mph on the speed gun, he should have known they'd have real difficulty stopping and realised stepping out was a bad idea. Not only did he fail to think about the stopping distance, he didn't think much about self preservation either and put himself in a really dangerous situation. He's the one who is supposed to be trained in road safety. He created the hazard in this situation. I can't say I'd have stopped any quicker or better than these bikes, but what I can say is if I were on the first bike, when I got close enough to realise the copper wasn't intent on actually getting in the way, and I wasn't going going to hit him, I'd have released the brakes and gone past him, then pulled a U turn further down the road. If during an emergency stop an escape route presents itself it's almost always safer to take it and let the bike roll and steer, than risk locking your wheels in a straight line. Also would have protected him from the bike behind. The second bike will probably still get done for careless driving if they charge him with it, because he was going far too fast for the conditions and did fail to stop causing a collision. Once in court charged with an offence it actually doesn't matter anymore how stupid the copper was, the only thing that is under scrutiny is how well the defendant reacted to it. Last edited by Fordward; 06-01-14 at 09:58 AM. |
06-01-14, 10:21 AM | #42 |
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The copper is a knob.
Yes the bikes were going too fast, and deserve to be done for speeding. But causing an accident to stop a potential accident is stupid. The cop was hidden from the SV by the VFR at the front. It looks like the SV saw the brake light and let off the throttle at least (which at 9K rpm would provide quite a lot of engine braking) not realising that it was an emergency brake situation, untill he was right on him. The SV was still in the corner at this point. In his (SV rider) situation I would be looking to extend my braking distance by going either side of the VFR in front (which is what I think he did) but then that bl00dy copper was dithering and getting in the way there too. |
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Unwise actions on both sides.
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06-01-14, 12:26 PM | #44 |
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The officer's actions were the trigger for the accident, not the cause. The cause was poor planning and emergency stop execution on the part of the second bike. The actions of the officer and the first bike contributed to it but did not cause it.
Well that's in my humble opinion anyway.
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06-01-14, 12:39 PM | #45 |
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Re: Police cause SV650 to crash...
Turns out that whilst not completely fake, or staged... it was being filmed as part of a road safety campaign that ironically went wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxiKQl7B2y8
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06-01-14, 01:14 PM | #47 |
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Apart from it being staged as it were, as it was the isle of man which much of it has no speed limits, were these guys actually speeding in the first place?
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I've heard tell that it was actually a road safety video gone wrong. Allegedly that's a road on the isle of man? EDIT: I see it's been noticed by others too. Funny how stuff that seems a bit funny, usually is. Last edited by Spank86; 06-01-14 at 01:26 PM. |
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06-01-14, 01:27 PM | #49 | |
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Normal road rules apply apart from national speed limits. Balls to the wall as they say. TT week its all one way so you can ride it like a track. Last edited by Wideboy; 06-01-14 at 01:29 PM. |
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06-01-14, 07:38 PM | #50 |
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I thought everything looked decidedly retro. The bike salesman's trackie top would probably be illegal now.
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