London Bikers beware - Operation "wastemoretime"

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by SteveH

Having moved from 2 to 4 wheels I have to say I've noticed alot more bad driving most ppl I talk to say in the last year things have got alot worse

Only at the weekend I had an idiot in a white van try to go past me on the outside line....right line merges into left, I'am in left hes a bit back in the right
Never has a cat hells chance to go clear past me but trys anyway forcing me to brake,and yet I'am in the wrong when I catch up to him


But my pet hate at the mo is parents not putting the seat belts on their kids even when there wearing theirs in the front


P.s oh and the guy in the 4x4 who could not be arsed to wait in the cue of traffic to turn right at the traffic lights, so goes on the other side of the road forcing on comming traffic to move out of his way...at speed and on a blind bend

Driving standards in general are going downhill in a mojor way. In the last 6 months ive been cut up twice......BY INSTRUCTORS in cars. 1 was driving himself the other the student was driving and even to she went to stop for me at the miniroundabout as it was my right of way her instructor pointed for her to go and when i went in front of them he threw his hands in the air in frustration and shook his head at me!!!
I politely asked him to pull up somehwere safe where i could get his details and report him to his company. The girl driving was really upset by this and while her instructor was busy trying to justify his arrogance (well you could see we were waiting to go, you should have stopped for us he says to me ) she said "look can we all just get on with this...i'm paying to sit here and listen to you 2!"
The other tw@ just said "so what, who are you to tell me i drove badly" he seemed to miss the fact that he swerved across 3 lanes of dula carriageway without indicating or looking in his mirrors cos he asumed it was clear. ****

Spider, my GF had this the other day.

Roundabout, shes looking right.....
Way is clear, she pulls out,
looks in front, car tries to pull out on her from next junction (to her left).
Bloke goes mental telling her that she should be looking where she was going...


Yes, becuase I hear the roundabouts are now going anti clockwise and traffic will be coming from the left.......

People, england, idiots..... Or the "thick population" as I call it.

[Spiderman]

yup happens all the time to me mate.

At the same mini roundabout (yards from 2 schools btw) there is ALWAYS broken glass from headlights/tail lights. And a few weeks ago a copper who was waiting to cross there on foot witnessed it happen to me and when in pulled up and asked him what he was going to do about what he had just seen he simply said "YOU are joking arent you mate? You know hown many collisions we have here daily? We'd have to set up an office to deal with just that to cope with it all. Its just the way they all drive round here. Just be carefull, yeh?" and off he went.

I guess if they could dish out fines via a camera they'd have one there but actulay SPPEAK TO DIVERS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THEIR ERRORS????? god forbid.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

yup happens all the time to me mate.

At the same mini roundabout (yards from 2 schools btw) there is ALWAYS broken glass from headlights/tail lights. And a few weeks ago a copper who was waiting to cross there on foot witnessed it happen to me and when in pulled up and asked him what he was going to do about what he had just seen he simply said "YOU are joking arent you mate? You know hown many collisions we have here daily? We'd have to set up an office to deal with just that to cope with it all. Its just the way they all drive round here. Just be carefull, yeh?" and off he went.

I guess if they could dish out fines via a camera they'd have one there but actulay SPPEAK TO DIVERS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THEIR ERRORS????? god forbid.

Perhaps this is something you should report to both the council (get them to sort out the area, perhaps cross-roads with traffic lights) and also the police complaints commision (not being bothered with the job, basicly)

Matt

Yeah i'd have taken his bloody number and reported him.


Good to see another officer serving the innocent public, protecting them, looking out for their welfare............ Another typicaly example of someone doing a job they have no interest in.

Was there a Costa Coffee and Crispy Creme donut stand nearby?

[Spiderman]

Tho i garee with you both i sadly live in an area where the "community" have more powers than the police or council combined.
An area where when a man was arrested for criminal damage and said to the arresting officer "You people make me sick" he was arrested again but this time for Anti-semetic remarks. In my area saying "you people" makes you anti semitic and the arrogance of the drivers is only matched by the fear the cops have for them.

My bike instructor once said to me "Hold on do i have to pass thru "Little Israel" to get to you if i come thru X?" and when i said yeh, he said "NO WAY, i'll be with you a little later than planned then cos i ont ride thru that area!

Originally Posted by wyrdness

my road tax says 'bicycle'

That is my planned defence.

[Bluepete]

From what I have managed to figure out, the offence would be failing to stop at an automatic traffic signal at a junction.

The first solid white line is the stop line with he green box in front of that for cyclists. If you cross the first white line in a motor vehicle whilst the ATS shows red, you commit the offence. It is under sec 36 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Highway code ( rule 178 ) uses the word MUST

Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.

It would therefore be a 3 points and £60 ticket.

Originally Posted by BluePete

From what I have managed to figure out, the offence would be failing to stop at an automatic traffic signal at a junction.

The first solid white line is the stop line with he green box in front of that for cyclists. If you cross the first white line in a motor vehicle whilst the ATS shows red, you commit the offence. It is under sec 36 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Highway code (rule 17 uses the word MUST

Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.

It would therefore be a 3 points and £60 ticket.

Carp and Chips

So i better stick behind the lines. Least i got my loud exhaust, people should know i am there

Matt

Originally Posted by BluePete

From what I have managed to figure out, the offence would be failing to stop at an automatic traffic signal at a junction.

The first solid white line is the stop line with he green box in front of that for cyclists. If you cross the first white line in a motor vehicle whilst the ATS shows red, you commit the offence. It is under sec 36 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The Highway code ( rule 178 ) uses the word MUST

Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.

It would therefore be a 3 points and £60 ticket.

Yup, he tried to scare me with 9 points and the fines as i'd done it through 3 sets of lights. I think my protesting at my innocence, and the fact that I didn't give him attitude was the reason he let me go.

It did wind me up though when asked if I thought I was a good driver (Driver? On a bike?) that I had to say no (My lined up answer was "i don't consider myself a highly skilled rider no, compared to Rossi, but my observational and common sense skills are excellent yes). But that would have only made things worse. Why did he need to say it? To belittle me? To make himself feel better about driving round in a Vectra all day wearing a silly hat? (don't think he was a normal plod, he had a bigger rounder white topped hat, red band around it?).

What he didn't say was bad was going accross the London Bridge at more than the speed limit...?

Coppers, some are great, some really should be in the force...