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[DarrenSV650S]

Originally Posted by gfewster

How often do you really need to ride the bike up and down the driveway? To warm the oil for changing a few minutes idling will do - you only need it to to be reasonably warm to help it drain, it doesn't need to be at full operating temperature. And how often are you changing your oil!!!

To be honest, I can see where he is coming from. If I lived alongside a rural driveway (presume it is fairly long if you can ride along it?) and the son of the couple who lived there kept riding a motorbike with a loud exhaust up and down the I'd get pretty annoyed. It isn't so much the volume of the noise itself, but the repetitiveness of it and and predicability: bike goes past one way....... sounds dies away and then it goes back the other way..... repeat ad nauseum and I can imagine it being pretty annoying.

It is amazing how annoying sound can be when it is repetitive, predictable and you can't get away from it. For the last couple of weeks at work a guy has been sitting near me who makes these little nasal grunting noises every now and then when he breathes out. It is barely audible, but the grunts come in little patterns which have become familiar and it is just about the most annoying thing I have ever experienced.

Like a couple of people have suggested, I would adopt a friendly and non-confrontational attitude. Bikes are noisy, especially with race cans. People who spend a lot of their time with bikes get de-sensitised to the noise, but to the rest of the world they are bloody loud. I really don't understand the fascination with fancy cans anyway, so it makes a big noise.... who hoo..... all a bit juvenile as far as I can see.

I rode up the drive twice ....

...to test the newly serviced brakes and help the engine warm up quicker

and the bike hasn't been run for about 5 months. Hardly repetitive

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by gfewster

How often do you really need to ride the bike up and down the driveway? To warm the oil for changing a few minutes idling will do - you only need it to to be reasonably warm to help it drain, it doesn't need to be at full operating temperature. And how often are you changing your oil!!!

To be honest, I can see where he is coming from. If I lived alongside a rural driveway (presume it is fairly long if you can ride along it?) and the son of the couple who lived there kept riding a motorbike with a loud exhaust up and down the I'd get pretty annoyed. It isn't so much the volume of the noise itself, but the repetitiveness of it and and predicability: bike goes past one way....... sounds dies away and then it goes back the other way..... repeat ad nauseum and I can imagine it being pretty annoying.

It is amazing how annoying sound can be when it is repetitive, predictable and you can't get away from it. For the last couple of weeks at work a guy has been sitting near me who makes these little nasal grunting noises every now and then when he breathes out. It is barely audible, but the grunts come in little patterns which have become familiar and it is just about the most annoying thing I have ever experienced.

Like a couple of people have suggested, I would adopt a friendly and non-confrontational attitude. Bikes are noisy, especially with race cans. People who spend a lot of their time with bikes get de-sensitised to the noise, but to the rest of the world they are bloody loud. I really don't understand the fascination with fancy cans anyway, so it makes a big noise.... who hoo..... all a bit juvenile as far as I can see.

Now this post shows the problem as I see it.You appear to be extremely intolerant of other people making sounds,even getting wound up by someone elses breathing.Neighbours who are excessively intolerant of noise are similar and we are pandering to this intolerance too much IMO.
Perhaps we should have a jury of reasonable poeple to decide what is acceptable and then not hesitate to tell the over sensitive to "get a life£?????

Fair enough then. I'd say he was being pretty unreasonable, but the fact remains that we have some pretty silly laws in this country that would appear to be on his side in this case. It isn't worth getting into a full-on dispute over, just placate him and keep the peace. Especially when it is not your house but belongs to your parents. What is their take on it?

And if you really want to sort it, just put the proper exhaust back on. A standard SV is not very loud at all - I used to warm mine up for 5 mins every morning at about 6:45 before leaving for work. Now I live in a very densely-inhabited cul-de-sac, and it bothered no-one..... I actually knocked on a few doors to check and all those I asked obviously slept right though it as they didn't know I went out that early.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Now this post shows the problem as I see it.You appear to be extremely intolerant of other people making sounds,even getting wound up by someone elses breathing.Neighbours who are excessively intolerant of noise are similar and we are pandering to this intolerance too much IMO.
Perhaps we should have a jury of reasonable poeple to decide what is acceptable and then not hesitate to tell the over sensitive to "get a life£?????

But I've not complained to him or anyone about it. I just get on with life, but it is annoying. And come on, a bike with a race can is very loud - there is no getting away from that.

Bikers would be a lot more popular with the general public if so many of our number didn't adopt such confrontational 'us and them' attitudes.... far too much 'I can do what I want and f*ck you if you don't like it.......' Doesn't win us any friends.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S

So I don't understand how they have suddenly changed their story

I don't know exactly. The police just told me today that he was doing it. He is retired and has nothing better to do with his time. He has a long history over the years of complaining about noise (before our house was even built)

You drew more of a tit of a copper this time.
You don't need to warm your bike to change the oil just let it drain a bit longer

I have no idea as to the legalities of any of this but if he's got such a long history of whinging then it'll take more than you winding him up a bit more to make him give it a rest.

Your target is to get him so upset he prods you on the shoulder or something, on camera, you got any CCTV up? Then report him for assault. If you can get him to swing for you I buy you a pint, and as consolation prize this will put you in enough fear for your life that you can punch his lights out legally. Bargain!

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Sounds kinda strange but I'd go and ask if he would like to help with the bike, try and fid out some of his history and see if you can build a bit of a relationship maybe. It's worked once for me in the past but this may have got beyond that. It's strange but when I engaged and asked if my neighbour would help and asked if they like a brew and a play it all went ok after that?

I've got sympathy with the OP here. Someone opposite us has had a couple of pops at me for starting the bike to warm the engine to do an oil change. First time was a Sunday at 12.30pm, apparantly it was too noisy to do it on a Sunday. Second time it was a Saturday afternoon and it was too noisy then aswell. I'm obviously an easy target though as she wasn't very quick to come out and say anything when some scrote was smashing car windows on the street. Our next door neighbour upsets her for using his lawn mower too!

Funniest thing is, she leaves her dog alone at home for hours on end and it barks like mad. One day, someone on the street (it wasn't me by the way) phoned the RSPCA who came out and did a visit . Didn't go down too well by all accounts but had me in stitches!

Your neighbour is one old annoying piece of work. He probably spends his days moaning about everybody if they even make a mouse fart noise..

It's your driveway and garage m8. I'd go round and tell him exactly what I think of him.... You shouldn't and don't need to ask permission everytime you want to start up your bike or service it, just because it offends him...
Just because he's not got any social life or skills left, and he doesn't want you to have any either...... stuff him...

There's always the classic get your own back of pouring a bag of sugar down his car petrol tank in the middle of the night... It's a big 3 figure job to repair, and it will **** him right off... Or a dirty big nail craftily placed under his tyre one night..... Then tell him to get lost if he asks for help to change it....... I didn't put it there, you must have picked it up on the road somewhere - not my problem

As for leaving letters telling you where you can't park on the street - collect them up, and shove them all up his ****. He's no right dictating to other motorists where they should be parking..

.org party!!! I've bring up my SV1000 with unbaffled cans to really hack him off.....

[ophic]

Originally Posted by jimmy4237

There's always the classic get your own back of pouring a bag of sugar down his car petrol tank in the middle of the night...

So classic it only works on classic cars without a lock on the fuel cap

put helmet on take the number plate off push bike on to the road take out baffle revv the T*Ts off it push back in garage bolt plate back on baffle in, if the copers come round and he has video evidence then they cant prove its you can they, plus its not on ure land