London Bikers beware - Operation "wastemoretime"

OH, flip side, a good argument back.

Was travelling up and past first line and lights started to change.

I didn't want to break the law by riding through red lights, so safly stopped in time, but for the 2nd line.

You could get away with it then???

[Bluepete]

Originally Posted by Daimo

OH, flip side, a good argument back.

Was travelling up and past first line and lights started to change.

I didn't want to break the law by riding through red lights, so safly stopped in time, but for the 2nd line.

You could get away with it then???

I interpret the second "Must" in the quote from the Highway Code to cover just such an event.

[Spiderman]

Thanks for that info Pete.

But i cant imagine how it would be possible to be over the first stop line and se the lights chage and stop again in time to be in the box.

A defence but one full of impossibility.

Still as long as i dont see a cop near me i'll ride how i feel its safe to, not according to some nazi pointless and untought out rule.

Originally Posted by BluePete

I interpret the second "Must" in the quote from the Highway Code to cover just such an event.

Yeah, I MUST stop at the 2nd white line.. But I never go over that anyway, just the first line.

But if someone came up to me stating that i had "jumped" a red light because I was in the cycle box, I could come back with the above to cover myself?

AS thats what is written in their law book? Lights changed as I crossed line, stopped for 2nd line as per the law states.....

[Spiderman]

Like i said above Damio...surley thats a physical impossibility tho. The box aint that big.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I dont see how having a clear cycle box would encourage this much more anyway. What they need to do is go further down the route of cycle to work schemes and also sort out the p*ss poor quality of the tarmac on the cycle paths some of the ones I've ridden on like riding off road and or full of pot holes, or broken glass rubbish etc.

If they want people to cycle give them a decent environment to cycle in, I dont cycle on the cycle paths anymore its to bumpy, and its full of other cyclists who wobble about all over the place due to having no bike control.

I think it's a case of a lot of little things add up to an improvement overall. Plus cycle lanes, etc send a message out that cyclists are being taken into account, and there are also some more subtle influences in presenting cycling as a more valid form of transport.

But I totally take your point over the road conditions - I've done a bit of cycling recently myself and the cycle lanes just seemed to go in and out of drains/round lamposts the whole time!!

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Fizzy Fish

But I totally take your point over the road conditions - I've done a bit of cycling recently myself and the cycle lanes just seemed to go in and out of drains/round lamposts the whole time!!

Yep its because they've been added in as an after thought, rather than being planned into the road infrastructure from the start. I've already had to shell out to have my rear wheel straightened and a new spoke put in. I'm convinced its because of the state of the cycle paths near where I live.

Some people you'll never get out of their cars though no matter what you do.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Like i said above Damio...surley thats a physical impossibility tho. The box aint that big.

Yeah, but if all else fails, what else you got to loose? Your gonna gain 3 lovley points and a nice fine if you agree to it anyway

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Still as long as i dont see a cop near me i'll ride how i feel its safe to, not according to some nazi pointless and untought out rule.

yup that sounds like my plan as well!

[SoulKiss]

As I understand it, the offence is to enter the box by crossing the solid line.

But what if I am by the kerb having not crossed the solid line due to the break in the line where the cycle lane enters the box?

I may be wrong, and happy to be corrected - but it isnt actually illegal to be in a bike-lane is it?

Oh and Daimo - Yep if you dont hit 50 at some point over London Bridge then you aint trying

Still trying to get the hand of wheelies for when on the middle of the span

What times do you cross?