Abortion

I heard quite a nasty story of a 'terminated' baby quite far along the line and it was left to die for hours in a metal bowl in the hospital.

I find that quite hard to believe magnum. I thought when an abortion was carried out that to enable the feotus to be removed it was disected inside the womb.

Please also consider other countries where abortion is not available and new born babies are left to die in the "dying rooms".

Also the countries where unwanted children are left in a cot, mostly with others, to fend for themselves. Most if not all develop severe mental illness and, or psysical abnomalities. When too big for the cot they are tied to the furniture.

I think abortion is acceptable.

Having had to make the decision myself, I can tell you Magnum it was and probably will be the most difficult decision I have ever had to make.

I think about it frequently and wonder what might have been. I will never know if I have made the right decision.

I was 10 weeks when I had a STOP (surgical termination). I had arranged to go when I was 6 weeks and then I couldn't go through with it. I came home and made the decision to keep the baby and had told my Sergeant and was put onto light duties. Then I told my mother. Meanwhile, I felt AWFUL! I couldn't eat and I could't sleep. I had to pull over to be sick on my way to work.

Then one night, a week or so later, I thought I'd miscarried. I was in bits. I went to the Dr and they gave me a pregnancy test and it was still showing +ve but I was told that it wasn't reliable so I had to go for another scan which showed I was still pregnant.

I was made to feel like dirt that day because they were all talking over the top of me saying "Oh well, it wont matter to you anyway because you are getting rid of it."

Eventually came the day for the procedure. It was the most humilating and painful experience i have ever been through. I was in agony (was neary admitted to wards).

So Magnum, in short, I think perhaps before you judge people and their actions you should learn a bit more about what it actually entails and the pain and heartache women are left with.

As dad to four kids (three inherited) I think it's a decision that should be made by the woman in question. My eldest's mother never even considered it, even though she was only 17 when I got her pregnant and it put an end to her hopes of university. Later on in life one of my ex's terminated because she wasn't in the right state of mind or financially prepared to go through with it, despite me being all in favour of her having the baby. I may not have liked her decision at the time, but I respect it now.

It's the woman's life, it's her baby and therefore it's ultimately her decision... whether it be right or wrong in anyone else's eyes.

MBK, im not here to pass judgement, and i understand that everyones circumstances are different, and so are the reasons for going ahead with the procedure or not.
The main problem i see is that other people are using abortions as an easy way out after not taking care in the first place knowing that if anything happens they can just get rid of it. A lot of people make the decision lightly, and knowing of a situation recently where someone i know got pregnant and aborted without much thought - this provoked me to look at other peoples opinions.

Looking at your post, and some others in this thread, i can understand that not every case is the same and that it isnt always easy. If i have offended you then i am sorry because its not something i want to do.

Abortion shouldn't be an issue.
There should be an exam before you're even allowed to contemplate having a child.
Look at some of the scrotes that have been allowed to breed, Shannon Matthew, Baby P's parents etc, etc.
If you can't pass a simple exam, then bollox to your breeding rights, steralisation is the only way forward, by going down this route we might actually breed an intelligent society.

Vote Cuffy.
I will bring back hunting, swap the foxes for paedo's...TALLY HO!!!!


This post was brought to you by the letter c....for cider.

[jamesterror]

I think its down to a joint decision between woman and man, more the woman's than the man.

If it was me in the situation with current circumstainces, I would 100% disagree to a child, being unable to support the woman and child which I think could hinder and hold back their future which I'd disagree to.

I was struggling to find an appropriate reply to this thread...

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

I have no idea, but losing a baby kinda makes you feel **** as it is

+1.

Some people don't get the choice.

Originally Posted by jamesterror

I think its down to a joint decision between woman and man, more the woman's than the man.

If it was me in the situation with current circumstainces, I would 100% disagree to a child, being unable to support the woman and child which I think could hinder and hold back their future which I'd disagree to.

So if a woman was raped do you think that the rapist should have a say in the matter?????

[jamesterror]

Originally Posted by cuffy

So if a woman was raped do you think that the rapist should have a say in the matter?????

Thats a different matter, I took it under the view of a man and women, either in a relationship or seeing other, and response to the question, no.

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

There's a lot that you've said in here that could really annoy me if it weren't for the fact that I know you have no way of knowing what it could be like to be a woman in this position.

- huge snip -

Thanks for your post (and yes, i did read all of it). It explains a lot of the process that i have no way of knowing myself, or will ever experience myself (thank god), and no, it doesnt sound easy (i cant even imagine having a period every month...).

Its interesting how you say it would be difficult for the mother to give away the child at birth. If it would be so difficult, then the mother obviously would have a bond with the child even if it was unwanted. But i think the point youre trying to make is not the lack of want for the child, but the inability to deal with having one, which makes sense.

The only part i disaggree on is the way you say the woman deserves 100% of the rights to choose whether or not to abort. Although she has to carry the child, it is still 50% of the fathers genes. I understand the dad gets it extremely easy for 9 months in comparison, but if i was with a woman who i got pregnant and i did not want the baby to be aborted, and i felt very strongly about it, i would feel terrible and powerless if she made the decision to terminate without my aggreement.