Budget 2007

Originally Posted by stewie

Precisley why you should vote, theres no such thing as a wasted vote because its a persons chance to make his political clout heard, a vote is more powerful than a bullet and if you dont vote then dont complain.

a) I ain't complaining, they are a power to themselves, we are just pawns in their game

b) my not voting is my way of standing for the fact that I don't believe in any of them. By choosing the better of two evils, does not make them right. I will vote when a party stands for what I believe, until then, I will not waste my vote on the nearest... that to me is like marrying someone, who you wouldn't necessarily chose, but they will do ..... better then nothing

c) to vote on a party because they are near enough is precisely a wasted vote

sorry but that is MHO , don't want to offend anyone

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by stewie

Totally agree, well said, I did exactly the same my self, voted for the lib dems cos the other werent worth wasting a vote. Trouble is everyone complains about em, but someone must have voted them in.......

This lot was let in by the non-voters. they won with the smallest share of the vote ever recorded. The non-voters had the largest share of the vote. 'The vote' being all those eligible to vote.

For the record the reason I don't vote is not one of apathy...

... and I also hold the act of voting very highly...

... so highly I will not waste it on the best of the worst, but will use it as and when I feel it has been earned.

We, as individuals, have no innate rights - they simply ones that society has deemed appropriate to grant us for a time. I feel I do not have the right to vote, but the chance to choose to vote. Being forced to is as bad and notbeing allowed in the first place.
Beware what thee do in the name of good - lest is mirrors that which others do in the name of evil.

I agree it's naive of me to think that if more people would adopt this stance then the politicians/political parties would have to buck their ideas up to really reflect public sentiment...

... but one can but hope. Someone has to.

To all of you that don't vote because the parties don't do it for you, why do you not spoil the ballot paper. Far better it you do that than do nothing at all. At least with a spoiled vote there is a representation of dissatisfaction, as opposed to whining on a motorcycle forum.
How can you expect change when you do sweet FA about making it happen. The fact that you didn't vote just means that you couldn't be bothered and not that you don't believe in the policies being but forward.

Voting with your feet may mean you have to enter a Polling station!
Actions speak louder than doing F**k All

Rant Over!

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Swiss

To all of you that don't vote because the parties don't do it for you, why do you not spoil the ballot paper. Far better it you do that than do nothing at all. At least with a spoiled vote there is a representation of dissatisfaction, as opposed to whining on a motorcycle forum.
How can you expect change when you do sweet FA about making it happen. The fact that you didn't vote just means that you couldn't be bothered and not that you don't believe in the policies being but forward.

Voting with your feet may mean you have to enter a Polling station!
Actions speak louder than doing F**k All

Rant Over!

Good man!

Originally Posted by Tomcat

a) I ain't complaining, they are a power to themselves, we are just pawns in their game

b) my not voting is my way of standing for the fact that I don't believe in any of them. By choosing the better of two evils, does not make them right. I will vote when a party stands for what I believe, until then, I will not waste my vote on the nearest... that to me is like marrying someone, who you wouldn't necessarily chose, but they will do ..... better then nothing

c) to vote on a party because they are near enough is precisely a wasted vote

sorry but that is MHO , don't want to offend anyone

Point a) No, we're not! Right now the majority of people are safety concious, responsibility dodging, arrogant idiots, who feel that their point of view should be forced on others... and this is reflected in the government that's been elected.

We have the power to get rid of them when we want - we choose not to. We're not pawns at all.

Point b) You may think that a government being voted in with such a poor turn out damages their legitimacy (and I'd actually agree with you) but this is not how the government will see it. If people aren't voting against them, they must be doing a good job, right?!

Also, remember, you get to change who you vote for every 5 years, so it's not really like saying 'I do '.

Point c) You'll never have a government that does everything you want, so you have to vote for the one that will suit your interests the closest, so it's not a wasted vote!

Originally Posted by Swiss

To all of you that don't vote because the parties don't do it for you, why do you not spoil the ballot paper. Far better it you do that than do nothing at all. At least with a spoiled vote there is a representation of dissatisfaction, who says? , it just shows you cant fill in a form as opposed to whining on a motorcycle forum. I dont recall whining
How can you expect change when you do sweet FA about making it happen. The fact that you didn't vote just means that you couldn't be bothered and not that you don't believe in the policies being but forward. I have explained why I have not voted, but you have interpreted it your own way, like all good politicians

Voting with your feet may mean you have to enter a Polling station!
Actions speak louder than doing F**k All

Rant Over!

Um... I don't recall doing any whining personally.

As far as I was aware, even spoiled papers don't actually carry any significance, but i remember something from a long time ago about a 'minimum population %' being relevant in an election...

... hence my stance.

If it is truely the other way round then yes - I will make the effort to attend a polling station.
I do believe in my principle so please don't tar me with the brush of simply not being bothered.

Do they actually have a box to tick for 'None of the Above'?

Originally Posted by K

Um... I don't recall doing any whining personally.

As far as I was aware, even spoiled papers don't actually carry any significance, but i remember something from a long time ago about a 'minimum population %' being relevant in an election...

... hence my stance.

If it is truely the other way round then yes - I will make the effort to attend a polling station.
I do believe in my principle so please don't tar me with the brush of simply not being bothered.

Do they actually have a box to tick for 'None of the Above'?

think we singing from the same hymn sheet, even if others prefer to put words in our mouths and make assumptions

Originally Posted by Tomcat

a) I ain't complaining, they are a power to themselves, we are just pawns in their game

b) my not voting is my way of standing for the fact that I don't believe in any of them. By choosing the better of two evils, does not make them right. I will vote when a party stands for what I believe, until then, I will not waste my vote on the nearest... that to me is like marrying someone, who you wouldn't necessarily chose, but they will do ..... better then nothing

c) to vote on a party because they are near enough is precisely a wasted vote

sorry but that is MHO , don't want to offend anyone

I doubt you will offend anybody, cos thats the great thing about living in a democracy, free speech.