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Old 07-12-11, 12:30 PM   #81
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tbh i can see the death by dangerous driving being given to the guy who crashed due to his pillion. but not to the other guys.
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Old 07-12-11, 02:54 PM   #82
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Have these four been convicted or charges dropped yet?
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Old 07-12-11, 03:00 PM   #83
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Sounds like the rider was on the wrong side of the road and hit the car driver. If the car driver was insured and on the correct side of the road then I do really feel for them as that will probably give him nightmares for the rest of their life.

My friend was convicted of death by dangerous driving. He was taking his very ill wife back from hospital, having been told 15 minutes earlier that her illness was terminal. While driving within the speed limit he blacked out at the wheel and swerved, hitting a Suzuki rider coming the other way in Epping Forest. He's a gentle soul in his late 50's, with a clean licence, not a reckless uninsured driver. It was an accident, he'll live knowing that he took someone's life forever, and he served time in prison for his 'crime'. It was shown that the mototrcyclist was speeding on his sportsbike.

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Old 07-12-11, 03:11 PM   #84
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Ah... ok then.
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Old 08-12-11, 07:35 PM   #85
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I just hope they all come to terms with it and if they feel any guilt...find a way to forgive themselves.
They should not feel guilty.

If I was following someone and F'ed up and killed myself, I would like them to rest easy. You are in control of your own life and throttle is only in your hand.
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Old 08-12-11, 10:57 PM   #86
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They should not feel guilty.

If I was following someone and F'ed up and killed myself, I would like them to rest easy. You are in control of your own life and throttle is only in your hand.
I agree with you...but for many people, it is impossible not to think,"if i hadn't done this or that, things might be different". I hope that is not the case, but that if it us, they let it go and just try and grieve for their friends.
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Old 09-12-11, 01:54 AM   #87
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Indeed they are not! What a horrible thing to have happened to your friend. I feel for anyone that is involved in anything like that. To be honest...even when people are idiots and cause death by sheer stupidity, I still feel sorry for them. One day they will mend their ways and never be reckless again...but they too will still always have to live with that memory.
Agree in most circumstances with this. If someone has just made a dodgey overtake and had ahead on and someone has died as a result then I always find it a bit of a double punishment to jail them. I understand why they do and there are some who most certainly do deserve it but most people with a licence will have had a "oooh that was a bit tight" moment at some point but managed to get away with it.

I think if I caused the death of someone it would kill me. I don't think I could cope with that guilt and the replay of the incident everytime I closed my eyes. As such, I have every sympathy with people like LPH's friend. I hope that through good fortune I never have to end up in a similar position. *touches wood*
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Old 09-12-11, 09:25 AM   #88
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Yep, I find jailing otherwise innocent and law abiding motorists too harsh.

If they have a good stack of previous offences and/or a criminal record, and/or they were drunk, then fair enough, they probably need taught the lesson. But 45 yr old Dad of three with a clean license who's never been in trouble in his life, fecks it up on the road and kills somebody, so they send him to jail to inhabit an environment that he's not the type of person to be able to cope with, he'll get raped in the shower every day, and he'll come out with post traumatic stress and a changed personality to wrecked career, a wife that's moved on and kids that don't know him anymore? No. It was an accident, a very unfortunate one, but an accident nonetheless. I hope if anyone close to me ever gets taken out like that, I'll still be able to see it the same way.

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Old 09-12-11, 03:53 PM   #89
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Bloke in Milton Keynes came off the road and hit a tree and his head came off, the others in the group weren't charged.
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