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View Poll Results: Which is more effective?
The Birch 17 62.96%
The ASBO 1 3.70%
20 minutes round the back with Keith D 9 33.33%
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Old 06-09-10, 07:32 AM   #1
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Default Birch or ASBO?

SO, what do you think is the most effective?
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Old 06-09-10, 07:33 AM   #2
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Birch.....or a jolly good fisting
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Old 06-09-10, 07:56 AM   #3
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I agree with Frankie Boyle, they should have called them gaybos or bender badges
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Violence - under any circumstances and perpetrated by anyone - is the last resort of the unimaginative. It's almost entirely about revenge and has nothing to do with genuine justice.
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surely better than completely ineffectual suggestions that the scroats might "quite kindly, you know, not set any more pensioners on fire this week... perhaps?"
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Violence - under any circumstances and perpetrated by anyone - is the last resort of the unimaginative. It's almost entirely about revenge and has nothing to do with genuine justice.
I disagree. I was belted as a child and I deserved it. It very quickly taught me where the limits were. Without it I'd have just kept pushing the envelope.

I think we should have a trial. 6 months should do it.

50% birched, 50% ASBO'd and see what the re-offed rates are.

Or even, if you gave the choice of either an ASBO or the birch to the scroats, then whatever they choose give them the opposite, that would be "punishment". give them the one they least fancy.

There is no "punishment" in this country any more. Only getting ""Locked" up with an Xbox, the internet and satelite TV.

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Old 06-09-10, 08:44 AM   #7
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Violence - under any circumstances and perpetrated by anyone - is the last resort of the unimaginative. It's almost entirely about revenge and has nothing to do with genuine justice.

Justice no longer exists and the scum know it-therefore a good beating to within an inch of their life might make them think again(but i doubt it).
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Old 06-09-10, 09:05 AM   #8
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I disagree. I was belted as a child and I deserved it. It very quickly taught me where the limits were. Without it I'd have just kept pushing the envelope.

I think we should have a trial. 6 months should do it.

50% birched, 50% ASBO'd and see what the re-offed rates are.

Or even, if you gave the choice of either an ASBO or the birch to the scroats, then whatever they choose give them the opposite, that would be "punishment". give them the one they least fancy.

There is no "punishment" in this country any more. Only getting ""Locked" up with an Xbox, the internet and satelite TV.

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i resent that statement
my violence can be very imaginative
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