Dumps, they encourage fly tipping

[timwilky]

So, with the evil stepmother AKA the duchess moving out of the ancestral home I have had to empty Wilkinson Towers.

It would appear one of my brother has already nicked my dads Snap On tool boxes/roll cabs. I never took them at the time of my dads death as it felt like grave robbing even though he told me they were mine. He left everything to the duchess so I didn't want to start taking bits then. But now when I should have the garage stuff someone has been in Grrhhhh.

But anyhow. dumps.

Loaded up the van full of household junk. Off to the local tip 12 miles away. Pulls in and starts to unload.

"Oi, where is your permit!".
"What permit?"
"The one to tip here"
"What you on about?"
"You need a permit for a van"
"Ok give me one"
"You have to apply to the council for one"
"OK I will do, have you got the details"
"It is all on there web site, but you cannot tip that until you get one"


So I have now got a van full of junk outside my house. Filled in the web form and had an email that I will get a permit in about 7 days. But I can only go once.

FFS I need to go about 4 times, I am tipping 70 years of hoarding junk.

They are encouraging me to simply fly tip by making it difficult to get rid of junk at an official household waste tip. Why?

[maviczap]

Totally agree Tim, as a non commercial user, you'd be ok down here to dump your loads at the recycling centres.

Only as a commercial operator would you need to pay or get a permit.

Is there anything the carity shops could take away?

I know Scope pick up furniture and stuff like that.

Reminds me I've got to dob a fly tipper in to my local council, as he and many others are ruining a local wood with their rubbish

[MisterTommyH]

They are encouraging you to use a licensed contractor to recycle as much as possible from the house to send the minimum amount to land-fill.

Landfill taxes are huge now and the council don't want the hassle or expense of having to sort through everything you dump.

Vans aren't allowed because they are generally used for commercial operations rather than personal - council tips are for the use of the residents only. If permits allowed return visits then a shady contractor (pikey) could go and charge a bomb for taking someones junk then simply keep going to the council tip - making a huge profit and putting all the expense onto the council.

Yea we have to have a permit here even for private vans but it is one per HOUSEHOLD so 1 for you, then get your mate to fill one in with your reg, then other mate, then another mate.

If anyone asks say your helping them to get rid of their old stuff too

Same at ours Tim only the do allow one tip per day if you're in a van.
Which is stupid - my estate used to take more in the back than a transit connect and I could go with that as many times a day as I wanted. Another ill thought out restriction!.

Same here. I am clearing out my house and I have a number of old PCs and PC bits that I've accumulated over the years.

As I work shifts, I loaded all the stuff into the car so I could drop it off on my way home from work.

Yesterday, seeing me in office clothing carrying a box of (three) keyboards, the guy in the little portakabin confronted me:
"Where'd you get them keyboards, butt?"

I explained they were mine, that I was moving house, and that I was disposing of them.

"They look like they's from a business."

I explain that he's seen me before twice in the last ten days, dropping off their two equally ancient and discoloured old PC towers in the same container, as well as their two monitors which he had directed me to put in the TV/monitor container.

He allowed me to continue. Still, wtf?

[widepants]

A couple of weeks ago I went to the tip in Somerset near to my partners with 10 bags of soil.The oik looked into the back of the van and after a quick count , told me that it would be £40.00 please. Wtf £4 for each bag of soil.Jumped in the van and 20 mins down the road I'm in North Somerset where they charged me the total of....£00 . Would dumping soil be classed as fly tipping ?

[Sir Trev]

To be fair the tip wallahs don't know if anyone in a van is a trader in disguise or a householder who happens to have a van. So they generally treat everyone with suspision.

My neighbour has this problem. He's known at the local dump as he has a decorating/building business so finds it a real pain disposing of genuine household junk. The gits now get funny when his wife turns up there in her car, no matter what's in it.

Surprised about the soil WP. Our tip has a skip for hardcore and another for soil and encourage their use as it gets recycled and sold on.

The re3 place in Reading is good, I borrowed the work van when we moved house tis a Peugeot Expert, literally just squeezes under the height restriction bar. I went there 3 times in one day with the van bursting at the seams no one batted an eyelid they even helped with the bigger stuff.

I also drive a C4 Grand Picasso so it like a van with all the seats down fill that up every now and then and just go up there.

[Dave20046]

Yep , you need a permit for big vehicles. It's seemingly ridiculous.

They are also all striking in sheffield, which is great when the council's website gets the dates wrong and you rock up anyway. you then go 12 miles to the suggested one when your nearest is shut and your car's fully loaded they have two members of staff welcoming people on the gate (required??) and 4 members of staff outside the portacabin not at all interested in what the public are getting up to on the site smoking and shouting through to the staff (at least one) in the cabin how they like their tea.
They could have kept both phucking sites open!