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Old 19-07-13, 05:02 PM   #1
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Default Pillion grab rail - legal requirement?

Is it a legal requirement to have a pillion grab rail on the back?

Mine is looking a bit battered and bruised and for aesthtic reasons i was thinking of removing it. I know pillion foot pegs are a requirement but was unsure about grab rails
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Old 19-07-13, 05:59 PM   #2
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Neither are requirement, as long as you dont carry a pillion.
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Old 19-07-13, 07:32 PM   #3
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Not entirely sure you ever legally need a pillion rail.
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Old 19-07-13, 07:47 PM   #4
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You don't need the grab rail unless it is fitted as standard as a replacement for the pegs. You can't remove the pegs without a seat cowl fitted.
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Old 19-07-13, 08:56 PM   #5
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You can remove the pegs whenever you want, i know someone with a bike thats had them taken off and brackets ground off and its fine for mot, you just arent allowed a pillion.
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Old 20-07-13, 06:53 AM   #6
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Default Re: Pillion grab rail - legal requirement?

If you have twin seats, or a seat capable of carrying two (like a DR400 or similar) then you need rear pegs. Wife's old DT failed the mot for no pegs as it was still capable of carrying two as it has a twin seat. Not sure about the grab rail thing though.
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Old 20-07-13, 07:03 AM   #7
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His seat could fit a pillion (with a small ****)
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Old 20-07-13, 10:34 AM   #8
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My sons YZF125R has had the rear seat & pegs removed & passed MOT no problem also when pulled by police they went over the bike but no mention of the pegs missing, as for the grab rail no requirement needed
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Old 20-07-13, 10:42 AM   #9
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Default Pillion grab rail - legal requirement?

Resident plumber here. The rule of thumb to go by with construction and use law and things is "If it's there, it needs to work" therefore if you have a second seat, the pegs should be there.

However, I don't think a grab rail is a requirement. You can take a pillion without a grab rail.
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Old 20-07-13, 11:10 AM   #10
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Default Re: Pillion Grab Rail

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You can remove the pegs whenever you want, i know someone with a bike thats had them taken off and brackets ground off and its fine for mot, you just arent allowed a pillion.
Some testers are more lenient than others. If you look up the mot rules, you do need them if a pillion seat is there
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