Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Dave, don't worry......I completely echo your sentiments. I've had a few PM's go back and forth with various people over ideas, only to think and PM back and take it back, realising that it's not the best way.

I have said on many threads that anything we would like to do in honour of Dave HAS to have the express permission of his mum and family because anything else would IMO be totally disrespectful.

This includes all the talk about the funeral, Lily, Drew, Viper, Fizz and Stretchie will already know from PM that another "thing" is something I think should be given a little more time. The Half Marathon was something I started to get the wheels in motion as Lily has contacted Velindre and IF we get the go ahead, it's all in place, but as with everything else, it's up to his family. They may have already decided to to the run in his place and nominated someone to do it, we can't just barge in and take over.

As you have said, others have said and I said myself as early as Sunday, we do not have the monopoly on grief for our beloved bread boy.

We need to show our love....not shout it.

Quiff, you have PM and I'll love you always....big hugs coming xxx

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Quiff I agree wholeheartedly that at the funeral we need to consider Dave's family's grief and their wishes, and the occasion should be treated accordingly.

However, by the time the AR comes around, a lot of the grief and anger will hopefully have subsided and it may be just as appropriate to celebrate Hovis' memory in whatever way we feel suits, be it yellow balloons, whatever really. After all, the AR is a .Org event and a place where we do have a monopoly on expressing our feelings towards him.

I, like you, knew Hovis better than some on here but not as well as others, so I think the best thing would be for us to take the lead from those who were closest to him and I think they should organise whatever tribute they feel is most fitting. People can join in as much or as little as they like with those tributes/celebrations depending what they feel comfortable with

I think there's a lot in your OP that is spot on though mate and needed saying. :thumbsup:

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

good post Quiff, we all know you mean it from only one point of view, that being a respectful one.

Takes a lot to post what you did mate.

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Without knowing details of the accident, will orgers on bikes at his funeral be a bit raw for his family or are they in favour of it?
Phil

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Well thought out Quiff. Hovis' passing has without a doublt sent a shockwave through the org, but you're right that even though he was larger than life here, there was more to his life than us.

People cope with grief and shock in differerent ways - I'm prone to go into 'organising and being practical' mode myself for the need of feeling of some use at a difficult time, so I understand why some may want to do that.

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Hovis' mum wants a bikers funeral.

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

if we do anything to remember him it should be on an org rideout/meetup.

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Ok fair enough, she must be a strong lady, i could imagine other parents feeling the opposite.
Phil

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I was worried it would start arguments and thought he wouldnt want that ..

then laughed and thought what am I saying, he would faarrkiinnn lovvee it

:D:D:D the little fool...

Re: Hovis and the AR and grief.
 

Quiff, totally agree. Well posted.

I felt kind of weird personally, I never met Hovis face to face but his passing has certainly affected me.

Mike