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northwind 13-01-07 05:00 PM

One? One is neither :)

skint 13-01-07 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Rich
So is one 'well hung', or 'well hanged', then? :P

Interesting side comment because in fact originally men were castrated in the process :smt103 , but that was stopped later. The process of hanging was the first part of the ritual but they weren't killed by this they just lost consciousness then brought round. Then they were stripped naked and tied to a frame, which was then drawn by horse (I assume) to the place of quartering when they were diembowelled and pulled apart. nice

Women were burned at the stake instead of the hanged, drawn and quartered ritual simply because it wasn't the done thing to parade them naked. :shock:

See, even then, woman got the soft option :-dd

Thought I would share that with you as I think about what to cook for dinner - can't face roast chicken :smt118

philipMac 13-01-07 05:51 PM

I was lead to believe that the "drawn" part wasn't the horse drawing you to your place of disembowelment, rather it was the pulling apart of your body. Like the pulling your arms / legs etc out of their sockets was being drawn.

Can you imagine the suffering? Bloody hell.

Although, they say burning is an excruciating way to die too.

Oh yeah, and its definitely Hanged.

tinpants 13-01-07 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by northwind
People are hanged, dead meat is hung. So first you get hanged, then you get hung. But "hung, drawn and quartered" would be acceptable as it's a specific term in traditional use- I forget the name for it but specifics overrule generalities. There's some latin you can use to justify it :)

I think its called "semantics" :lol: :D

northwind 13-01-07 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bellerophon
I think its called "semantics" :lol: :D

Well, by definition it would be :)

IIRC the drawn was, like PhilipMac (keen student of medieval torture I see) says, being physically drawn apart- though not to bits, you understand, just enough to rip ligaments, seperate joints, and generally spoil your running career.

Ward8124 14-01-07 04:27 PM

Screw the yanks!!! its our language and if we say its Hung drawn and quatered then its correct. BTW i have seen a few text books saying Hung Drawn and quarterd as its the name of a process in its entireity so me thinks this is correct. :wink:

weazelz 14-01-07 04:38 PM

take this, stupid yanks:

clicky

Samnooshka 14-01-07 08:13 PM

i think the drawn doesn't refer to the being drawn by horse naked... i think, it's the opening of the stomach from the navel to the neck and the guts are spewed out... the quartering is being chopped up (usually dead by this part). But they aimed to keep the subject alive long enough to experience the pain and suffering longer.


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