ok there seem to be alot of dhm bashing arround here ive gone down twice with dhm once on each side and both arond 30 mph the time i went on the left side was nasty having carved about 50% of nylon of the puck. i still could get the bolts out and fit new ones. i personaly think that there is anything wrong with them of course a biger crash is diffrent story but what make of mushroom is going to save your bike at 50-60 mph when it hits the wall. they arent magical things that save your bike from being a right off they just aid in damage limitation. my point being ive gone down twice and have had no problems with dhm so why pay load of dosh for r&g when they are (in my eyes) no better that dhm :)

In case you missed it, I was talking about the ones I used on my '00 model. Which were ****. It's not a question of "bashing", it's pure and simply warning people off a product that is no use at all out of the box.

Out of curiousity, how hard did you drop it on the right with yours? I think the design's similiar but if it has the longer bolt that the carbed ones ought to have, it could be more effective.

its nice to hear of something positive about the DHM but as northwind said did you go down on the r/h side? perhaps the bolt is now longer?

thats me again i though that dhm were the same for both bikes. the right hand side drop wasent so bad. the bike just slid across the road for about 25 feet before settling up underneath the car in front.

Sounds not bad at all then. They're basically the same design for both bikes, but the spec's slightly different.