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Warren 26-04-06 12:19 AM

during my first aid courses that ive been on, ive found it pretty hard to get a good seal round "annie's" mouth, them masks make it so much easier.

and just think, thats in a calm controlled enviroment.

northwind 26-04-06 12:19 AM

Would you recommend those for unskilled use? Never used one, had a play with one when I got my 30 minutes first aid training with the bank but we didn't have the resuscitation dolls. The impression I got was that the bank used them because they were terrified of litigation (the classic "you saved my life, but in the process you gave me cold sores, I'm going to sue"), but I could be wrong.

northwind 26-04-06 12:21 AM

Oh, just remembered one of Tosh's stories... A dirt biker riding (illegally, I think) up one of the walking trails managed to ride into a river and get stuck under the bike with a broken somethingorother. Blanket's not much use there... Except that it's a big shiny thing, quite handy when you're in a muddy river under a muddy bike :)

Warren 26-04-06 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by northwind
Would you recommend those for unskilled use? Never used one, had a play with one when I got my 30 minutes first aid training with the bank but we didn't have the resuscitation dolls. The impression I got was that the bank used them because they were terrified of litigation (the classic "you saved my life, but in the process you gave me cold sores, I'm going to sue"), but I could be wrong.

ive only used em on the dolls, and they are alot easier.

northwind 26-04-06 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bikageboy
DR ABC :)

Doctor Atomic Biological Chemical MD. Remind me never to hurt myself on his manor.

Warren 26-04-06 12:28 AM

danger
response

airway
circulation
breathing

:)

rictus01 26-04-06 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
Would you recommend those for unskilled use? Never used one, had a play with one when I got my 30 minutes first aid training with the bank but we didn't have the resuscitation dolls. The impression I got was that the bank used them because they were terrified of litigation (the classic "you saved my life, but in the process you gave me cold sores, I'm going to sue"), but I could be wrong.

yes, you can get a face sheild, some thing like this
http://www.cprfaceshields.com/images...ace-Shield.jpg

but the mask is better.

Just a number of things to consider.

RTA's could cause facial injuries (blood all over the place),
the mask seals over a greater area so is more effective (mouth and nose covered),
when doing CPR for any length of time it's not uncommon for the hand placement to be slightly off and compress the top of the stomach ( yes they can throw up in you mouth, or worse it could be blood)

want one now :?:

Ward8124 26-04-06 09:16 AM

Well in the Army your taught....Assess the situation i.e are u in danger or the casualty, if so dont bother risking your own life or if there is iminant danger to the Cas then get them clear (This might spark a debate) and then do your ABC's (After getting someone to call the EMS peeps and return to you when done and if you have time D's.


BTW I've had to this for real in Kosovo so its best to take charge if you can.

northwind 26-04-06 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rictus01
want one now :?:

It wouldn't stop me not having one, but it'd be nice :) Especially if it's that easy to use. They looked like they'd be just another thing to get wrong but like I say, never actually was able to try on.


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