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Baph 04-04-09 10:19 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
I'm sorry, I refuse to comment on this thread properly as I can't find the U-rated words to express my feelings. However...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou M (Post 1852074)
Please don't stay with him, as it'll only get worse.
Crowbar your bike out, he has no right to detain your property.

This, and similar sentiments have been mentioned before in this thread. This is also what I would be doing. But please note the following:

Whilst he has no right to detain your property, you also have no right to destroy his (namely the lock). I strongly urge to you call a locksmith, who will happily open the container (for a fee) without causing damage. When the situation is explained to the locksmith, don't be surprised if they insist on police being present to ensure they're not aiding & abetting a robbery (ie, the police can ensure the bike is registered to you).

Magnum 04-04-09 10:26 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Im not going to go through all 7 pages. You havnt been on the road long enough to be a brilliant rider, and certainly havnt done enough miles on the sv to get used to it completely. Youre allowed to make your own decisions, and i find the comments you mentioned that he said wuite patronising towards you.
Stick with the sv, just get more practice on it. Dropping it doesnt make you an unsafe rider, and the confidence comes with experience.

gruntygiggles 04-04-09 10:28 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1852109)
I'm sorry, I refuse to comment on this thread properly as I can't find the U-rated words to express my feelings. However...



This, and similar sentiments have been mentioned before in this thread. This is also what I would be doing. But please note the following:

Whilst he has no right to detain your property, you also have no right to destroy his (namely the lock). I strongly urge to you call a locksmith, who will happily open the container (for a fee) without causing damage. When the situation is explained to the locksmith, don't be surprised if they insist on police being present to ensure they're not aiding & abetting a robbery (ie, the police can ensure the bike is registered to you).

I hear ya Baph.....but when I had a similar problem a few years back where my landlord thought I owed him rent (I had actually paid 6 months in advance and was one month in...lol) he changed the lock on the garage and I couldn't get to my car. I called him, no reply. I called the police non emergency number to ask what to do and was told that as he had locked away my property without my permission, I had every right to gain access PROVIDING I left the garage secure after I had got my car out. I was also told that all I need to do for this was close it and padlock it, no need to have a new lock put on.

This was 11 years ago now though, so the laws might have changed.

skeetly 04-04-09 10:28 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Crikey.
Is your OH like this with other stuff?
Might be time to walk if thats the case ;)
Stuff the bike, get another one when you get sorted on your own.

Baph 04-04-09 10:33 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 1852117)
I hear ya Baph.....but when I had a similar problem a few years back where my landlord thought I owed him rent (I had actually paid 6 months in advance and was one month in...lol) he changed the lock on the garage and I couldn't get to my car. I called him, no reply. I called the police non emergency number to ask what to do and was told that as he had locked away my property without my permission, I had every right to gain access PROVIDING I left the garage secure after I had got my car out. I was also told that all I need to do for this was close it and padlock it, no need to have a new lock put on.

This was 11 years ago now though, so the laws might have changed.

In that case, the landlord could of claimed that the lock you provided wasn't sufficient, and pushed for damage to property etc. Granted this was 11 years back, but still.

EDIT: Of course, we're assuming that this "container" isn't the type of container I use - if it is, a crowbar wouldn't be able to get anywhere near the lock as they're designed to prevent just that from happening. :)

I just reckon it's a good idea if the OP goes about things the right way, so they don't get in hot water for it. :)

John 675 04-04-09 10:35 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Swapping for another bike is stupid..

Locking the bike away from you... Also strange

Not understanding that your OH doesn't want you dead... Well whatever it's your bike / relationship..

However any rider with a few years under them will tell you that just because you passed a test doesn't mean you know how to ride a bike..

WARNING DIFFERENT OPINION ALERT

Whatever.. To what this bloke has done this part is about peoples harshness..

Everyone else bitch talking about this person when your being told one side only is also harsh as it goes although it appears very possessive what if you felt the same with any of your partners? I guess being scared of recieving a phone call that your other half is sprayed across the road is a crime then.. Maybe not applicable in this case who knows but whatever I just think anyone of us would feel hurt if we stumbled across our other half slating you online to hundreds of people you didn't know on a few forums.. And being advised to leave him?? WTF guys... WTF..!!

Why not meet him halfway and do an IAMS course WITH him. There is always more to learn for EVERY rider.

gruntygiggles 04-04-09 10:36 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1852126)
In that case, the landlord could of claimed that the lock you provided wasn't sufficient, and pushed for damage to property etc. Granted this was 11 years back, but still.

I just reckon it's a good idea if the OP goes about things the right way, so they don't get in hot water for it. :)

I agree with you mate......I think Fenjer knows that I wouldn't mean she actually take a crowbar to the lock up.......just see mine and Dizzy's posts. I was just making a point. That said, best to call the police and check I reckon. Even if a locksmith is the way to go, I would make the OH pay the bill!

Here's what I said...

Tell your OH to give you the keys or a copy of so that you have access to your bike or you'll take a crowbar to his lock up to get it out....it's your bike, if he's keeping from you, he's essentially breaking the law.

Not actually telling Fenjer to do it.

nwmotors 04-04-09 10:58 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
You should tell him were to go Lol
and if he wants you to be a better rider, then going out on the bike on your own is the best way, because u can improve gradualy and then become a Better rider, And you will have more confidene:)

fenjer 04-04-09 11:12 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
just had a quick skim of the 7 pages - thanks guys, I'll reply later with more detail etc.

Some of the comments are fair. He did tell me that I took a lot of his comments out of context, but trust me I didn't. I can't see him registering here or looking at this thread tbh, I would probably find myself homeless. I could probably get hold of the container key...and my bike key. The bike is in my name on the V5, so no problem there. Getting the bike out the yard without him or his parents seeing is a different matter though!

Hopefully tomorrow's ride out brings some more confident and positive remarks.

TY again.

X

gruntygiggles 04-04-09 11:21 PM

Re: Here's a little story:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lylej (Post 1852131)
Swapping for another bike is stupid..

Locking the bike away from you... Also strange

Not understanding that your OH doesn't want you dead... Well whatever it's your bike / relationship..

However any rider with a few years under them will tell you that just because you passed a test doesn't mean you know how to ride a bike..

WARNING DIFFERENT OPINION ALERT

Whatever.. To what this bloke has done this part is about peoples harshness..

Everyone else bitch talking about this person when your being told one side only is also harsh as it goes although it appears very possessive what if you felt the same with any of your partners? I guess being scared of recieving a phone call that your other half is sprayed across the road is a crime then.. Maybe not applicable in this case who knows but whatever I just think anyone of us would feel hurt if we stumbled across our other half slating you online to hundreds of people you didn't know on a few forums.. And being advised to leave him?? WTF guys... WTF..!!

Why not meet him halfway and do an IAMS course WITH him. There is always more to learn for EVERY rider.

+1, hence me advising that it might be good to go out with other, more experienced riders for a while, not on her own to allay his fears of her coming off when no one else is around. I would never advise anyone get rid of a partner, none of our business, but I have no problem in having an opinion on certain behaviour and from what Fenjer has said, worried or not, her OH is acting in a totally unreasonable manner.

Good points well made Lylej


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