Scottoiler Dispenser Nib Position
 

Hi

I installed a Scottoiler to my bike last week. However I went out last night to admire my handy work and just check that the chain was wet and the flow rate was correct and I noticed my dispenser nib was missing. Gutted.

I have seen that you can buy spare nibs online so have ordered two but what I want to know is has anyone else had this problem?

Is there a way of ensuring the nib is secured to the dispenser tubing securely?

Also where are people placing the dispenser nib? I had mine at the front of the sprocket at the 7 O'Clock position as recommended in the online instructions.

Any help would me much appreciated

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as per instructions..

there is a tiny wee clip that comes with the kit I think to tighten the nib on .. not sure


one thing.. do you back the bike out of the garage?? or at any time back it up.. this bends the nib the wrong way often and it can flick back and ping off when u set off

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i still got me box of spare bits I have a look in a tic


when I am out of bed !

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The ' nibs ' are just short lengths of the black vacuum pipe, so buy a length of that & make your own.
The business end should be tapered & heat the other end over a match or lighter to form a blob - this will hold it in place.
As Quiff says: beware of putting pressure the wrong way when reversing the bike. This can also get muck up the orifice, and you don't want that!

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You need to get it in the right spot so it doesn't get ripped off when backing up.

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could a bit of heat shrink hold it on>?

mind you mine has never come off.. its all about putting it in the right place.. as there are times when backing up your bike cannot be avoided

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Yeah you can't have it so it gets ripped off every time you let it roll back 6"!

Personally I just chucked it and used a bit of brass tube.

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Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like backing up the bike may have caused it to come loose.

Can someone suggest a good position for the nib as unfortunately not backing up my bike isn't an option :(

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Not dragging on the sprocket.

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Just have a look on the Scottoiler website - there's a bucket load of info there.

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Have not found this problem with the twin injector, but no doubt Mr Squid will put me right on that :p

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I found the dual injector more difficult to set up to be honest and went to the single one.

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I do not have that problem with single one either when it is fitted right

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my is facing 5 o clock works fine

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Either one can be fitted wrong. The most mangled one I've seen was a twin tube. Wwhatever the accessory and whether it works or not - it needs to be fitted right.

My correctly functioning single has been on my bike for more than 120,000 miles.

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I have mine at the 5 O`Clock position on the sprocket and set about 4mm away from the chain and the taper is just about off the sprocket , the centrifugal force of oil dispensed onto the sprocket will send it onto the chain . It doesn`t get ripped out when backed up and has worked effortlessly since install , not lost a nib yet .

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In other words, not rubbing on the sprocket or chain

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The twin injectors seem to be far more unpopular than the single, and as I won't fit a twin spouter to my bike I'm guaranteed my Scottoiler will work nicely. Everyone I know who bought a twin injector has gone back to the single set up.

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If you're still in any doubt, or just want some free spares, contact Scottoiler directly. Best customer service I think I've come across for anything, anywhere...although Hood are pretty good too.:cool:

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Thanks to everyone for their advice and tips. It is much appreciated.

Does anyone have any pics they can upload showing how they have positioned the nib in place. Thanks in advance

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The end of the dispenser should be between the 6 & 7 o'clock position on the sprocket. Make sure it's mid way between the chain & the large holes in the sprocket with the dispensing hole f(which is splayed) facing outwards.

I have lost mine by reversing before so make sure the sprocket is clean, check the position and try moving the bike back and forwards a little whilst looking at. Once set correctly it will stay there.

You will need to check it after a garage has had your bike for tyre replacement or up on a stand. Give them some warning that you have one. Make sure you have bobbins for a padock stand so the pipe and or dispenser are not affected by anything they use.

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I have relocated my dispenser to the front sprocket

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I tried that , chain ended up dryer than normal and was a waste of time with the setup I tried , If I had persevered with it and put more thought into it , then it would have been the best option really ...... definately worth considering .

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I am sure thats how David has his.. the old bloke who rides the yellow naked... and wears a tea towel round his neck.. (and I owe a bottle of cold beer to)

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That's not all you owe me, Quiff!
Yes, fitted mine to oil on the front sprocket & seemed to work really well. Having the nib on the rear sprocket is like trying to shake the last couple of drops without going on yer boots - everything's flapping all over the place.
Maybe there was more carp round the front sprocket, but that's an incentive to clear things out.
Currently it's pointed at the back but that's due to moving the main unit but will put it back to the front when a couple of other bits are sorted.
BTW Quiff, you're not hinting I should ride a VFR & have pipe & slippers are you?

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Mines fitted to the rear, between 5&6 o'clock. FYI, there's a piece of firm black tubing that slips over the clear tubing. If that is slid over the part of the tube where the nib is inserted (i.e. the end), it makes the nib difficult to remove.

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+1

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Just got mine fitted, and although it's still there after 55 miles :D it does catch the chain and flick backwards when I reverse. It flicks back to its proper position when I go forwards again. Is this acceptable and does anyone else experience this?

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No, it's not acceptable :(

I found out the hard way - my driveway is up-slope to exit, so I have to back my bike on. If the nib catches it will almost certainly get damaged at some point. Mine got filled up with road crap and stopped dripping oil twice through the winter. Then, the tubing got damaged by the chain, dumped the oil and I rode round for weeks without greasing the chain. Ended up getting a crack in a link, and the chain when checked, was more than 15mm past it's service limit of 319.4mm between 21 pins IIRC.

Make sure only the very tip of the nib touches only the sprocket. The cut away section should be facing away from the sprocket.

I've re-routed mine twice now. Best bet is it attach the brackets to the point where you have a cotton reel, and keep a reel on there, so there's no messing when you want to lift the bike. That's what I'll do when I eventually find some cheap black reels/bobbins. The tubing is run along the inside of the swingarm so as to avoid any potential chain movement. Has been fine for a while now.

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Mine is mounted on a cotton reel bobbin, and lightly touching the sprocket, but nevertheless when rolling backwards, the nib moves outwards and catches in the chain. Perhaps my sprocket is too dirty.

I'll have another go. Thanks for the advice :)

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I had a single on my last bike and a twin on my current. In both cases 7 o'clock position few mm above chain and few mm away from sprocket. Feel free to trim the thin bit of the delivery pipe if it makes life easier as it's not exactly critical to maintain it at the supplied length. Scott will send you some more for not much money at all.

Having had both a single and a double I would not hesitate in going back to a single again next time. Getting a double to deliver at a sensible rate from both tubes seems to be impossible so you end up with one right and one lubing your tyre or one right and the other dripping about once per day.

Unfortunately to retrospectively convert from double to single involved replacing or extending the main delivery tube which is too much of a faff for me to bother with.

Pipe routed along groove in tool box, under swingarm to dispenser.

PS and VERY IMPORTANT. Fitting a Scott oiler does NOT mean you no longer have to check and maintain your chain. It just does the day to day lubrication for you.

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Don't forget sprockets wear too.

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Firstly I would like to thank everyone for the advice given about the position of the dispenser nib. After losing a second nib I decided to invest in some bobbins and use them to position it properly.

I have attached some pictures so if anyone else needs help they can take a look.
Please excuse the state of my bike, its filthy after the latest nib fell off and the tube just sprayed oil all over the place. It got a damn good cleaning after I took these pictures :)

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Good job!

Don't forget, it's not an excuse not to check regularly, still make checking your chain a daily or weekly task depending on mileage. Hopefully it'll help towards chain & sprocket trouble-free motoring for you.

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Hi guys just thought I would give you a quick heads up on the new dispenser position. Its been about two weeks since i changed it and used the rear bobbins to hold it in place and so far I haven't got any complaints.

The nib is still in the same position as when I set it up and more imoprtantly I haven't lost any due to backing the bike up etc. Seems to me this is the position of choose and I hope that anyone setting one of these up will be able to use this thread to do the same.

One small query though is that I have noticed some oil is splashing on the inside wheel and was wondering if this was normal with the Scottoiler or if I have the flow rate set a bit too high. When I set it up I made sure that it was set to 1-2 drops per minute. Mine is about 2 drops every 90 secs. Any advice?

Thanks again to everyone who commented and gave advice on this thread. Very helpful

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2 drops every 90 secs is about right, but remember to turn it to two drops a minute when the weather is cold or wet. The oil flows that bit better in hot weather, and the rain tends to wash some oil off the chain. One of the purposes of the oil is to keep the chain cool as well as lubricated, so don't skimp on the flow too much in summer just because it's flowing faster.

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Dont forget that the oil reservoir may be in a "hot spot" on your bike, so the flow could increase due to warming when riding.