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BillyC 20-12-04 11:00 AM

Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
I unpacked my Scottoiler over the weekend, and tried to get to grips with all the tubes and fixings.

Thanks to Mr Squid for giving me details of how to connect to the vacuum on the K3, have located that bit no problem!

So, what I'm looking for from you peeps is descriptions of where you've fitted your oiler reservoir, and how you've directed the tubing down to the swing-arm and onto the chain. Ideally I'm after pictures, and detailed descriptions... can anyone help? I'd rather not start super-gluing things to my swing-arm if possible ;)

Squid: I'd really appreciate a look at how you've done the mounting on your swing-arm if it's possible for you to send/post a piccy of it. Ta

Flamin_Squirrel 20-12-04 11:11 AM

Do you have your pilion pegs attached? Since I've removed mine, I bolted the reservior using one of the holes where the pegs normaly attach. The tube then runs down by the shock (kept taught to prevent the chain rubbing on it), and cable tied to the underside of the swing arm. I put it there to avoid losing the already limited underseat space.

I've not really got the delivery tube idealy placed however, something I really should sort out :?

Mr Toad 20-12-04 12:00 PM

under the pillion seat, then the tube out and round near the front sprocket, and underneath the swingarm
I'll post some pics tonight if you want. Would show you on Weds, but can't make it this week due to babysitting :cry:

BaggaZee 20-12-04 12:39 PM

On the K2 there's a threaded hole in the frame behind the LHS black vented plastic thing under the main seat. This happens to take the little scottoiler bracket bolt perfectly and you don't lose any storage.
The pointy bikes may have the same. Worth a look. :wink:

Sid Squid 20-12-04 12:59 PM

I've got the reservoir mounted below the sidepanel on the left hand side, cable tied to the frame, there's plenty of room for it there and it doesn't stand out particularly, actually it's fairly neat fitting in the space, on my 650SX I had it under the pillion seat but outside of the luggage space, that's not possible on the present bike, as there would be no access for filling and adjustment, I'll take a picture of the delivery tube plate tonight.

Jdubya 20-12-04 07:41 PM

Re: Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyC
I unpacked my Scottoiler over the weekend, and tried to get to grips with all the tubes and fixings.

Thanks to Mr Squid for giving me details of how to connect to the vacuum on the K3, have located that bit no problem!

So, what I'm looking for from you peeps is descriptions of where you've fitted your oiler reservoir, and how you've directed the tubing down to the swing-arm and onto the chain. Ideally I'm after pictures, and detailed descriptions... can anyone help? I'd rather not start super-gluing things to my swing-arm if possible ;)

Squid: I'd really appreciate a look at how you've done the mounting on your swing-arm if it's possible for you to send/post a piccy of it. Ta

I got some pics off-of cloggsy...shall I mail 'em to ya? :)

Torn 20-12-04 08:57 PM

Re: Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdubya
I got some pics off-of cloggsy...shall I mail 'em to ya? :)

can you send them too me please, ive had a scottoiler sat on my kitchen table for 2 months, also any hints on where to attach the vacuum would be most appreciated :roll:

Flamin_Squirrel 20-12-04 09:53 PM

Check the scottoiler webside for pics of where to attach the vaccum tube.

Carsick 20-12-04 09:54 PM

The scottoiler website might not seem all that great, but the guide is accurate and for a K3/4 it does literally attach the way the photo shows.

Cloggsy 20-12-04 10:16 PM

If anyone wants the 'How to...' just ping me an e-mail & i'll send it to you :wink:

It's a big file 5+Megs (word doc,) so make sure your e-mail provider can receive big mails ;)

BillyC 20-12-04 10:41 PM

Yes please... piccies sent to email address on my email link below!

Thanks

Cloggsy 20-12-04 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyC
Yes please... piccies sent to email address on my email link below!

:? Bill... You ain't got an e-mail link :roll: Everything but :lol: :lol: :lol:

BillyC 20-12-04 10:59 PM

Yes I do! :lol: :wink:

Cloggsy 21-12-04 03:31 PM

It's on its way Bill :thumbsup:

BillyC 21-12-04 04:15 PM

Just downloading the 6Mb Word file now Cloggsy :shock:

Word embedded images - definitely the best way to send pictures! :wink:

Cloggsy 21-12-04 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyC
Word embedded images - definitely the best way to send pictures! :wink:

It's how it was sent to me :lol: :lol: :lol:

Torn 23-12-04 12:18 PM

just had a look on me bike with the tank up and air box off, how the hell did you get the tube onto the vacum ive got no hope , any hints :oops:

Flamin_Squirrel 23-12-04 12:30 PM

I got the tube in place going in from the side, through the frame. Nimble fingers 8)

Cloggsy 23-12-04 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn
just had a look on me bike with the tank up and air box off, how the hell did you get the tube onto the vacum ive got no hope , any hints :oops:

:lol: With a great deal of difficulty... You dont need to lift the tank, you can go in through the frame on the R/H side, if I remember rightly :? (between the frame :!:) If you compare the pictures to your bike you'll see where :wink: You carefully 'pop off' one of the caps which cover the vacuum points, then just replace it with the Scottoiler vacuum cap (I also used the little circlip from the cap & put it over the scottoiler cap to prevent it coming off - you push the cap on with the tips of your fingers, then slide the circlip down into position :wink:)

Torn 23-12-04 02:55 PM

right time for second attempt :roll:

BillyC 26-12-04 04:59 PM

Alright...

Got the vacuum tube connected up without too much bother. Now I'm just deciding where to mount the reservoir.

If I mount it, using the bracket, next to the pillion seat lock, then the reservoir will be complete horizontal, meaning that only half it's content will be useful.

That basically means it's got to be on the frame, and I'm inclined to go for Squid's suggestion - out of sight but easily reached. If I mount inside the luggage compartment, the rotation of the adjustment knob can be blocked.

So... piccies of your delivery pipes please! I'm sure most of you have nothing better to do tomorrow ;)

northwind 26-12-04 05:55 PM

You don't want to have it totally horizontal, mine used to be like that and it often took on air and had to be reprimed... Got it vertical under the LHS side panel, IMHO the best place on the curvy bike but I don't know if it'd fit as well on the jaggy one. Somewhere it's easy to get at! I used to have it under the rider's seat for a while, that was really rubbish. Before that it was in the underseat storage, but that was fiddly too.

Stig 26-12-04 11:40 PM

Fitted a scott oiler to mine just last week. I have the resevoir under the pillion seat. It sits at about 60 degrees, and have it set on number 7. Can't see anywhere where it could be mounted vertical. As I have done zero miles since it was fitted, is number 7 a good start point :?: :roll:

Flamin_Squirrel 26-12-04 11:54 PM

I've got mine set on 4 with blue scottoil. You want only enough to keep the chain slightly oily, not wet, I belive. You'll just get excess fling otherwise.

Saying that its probably better to have too much than too little. Also bare in mind that thicker oil, cold, and/or rain will mean you'll want to increase the setting.

Valman 27-12-04 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe
...is number 7 a good start point :?: :roll:

That's a good question and I would like to know the answer too. I had mine fitted by the dealer with no instructions supplied to me so have no idea on how to set it up correctly.

BaggaZee 28-12-04 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valman
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe
...is number 7 a good start point :?: :roll:

That's a good question and I would like to know the answer too. I had mine fitted by the dealer with no instructions supplied to me so have no idea on how to set it up correctly.

From memory, the instructions say that 7's a good starting point to deliver a bit too much, this will help clean a lot of the existing crap off your chain (and make your back wheel filthy), then drop it down a bit for day to day use. 4 seems to do the job on mine. :wink:

fizzwheel 28-12-04 02:07 PM

Got mine set on 4 seems to to do the trick

i.e. it oils the chain and not the rear wheel :D

Jdubya 31-12-04 02:29 PM

Any other suggestions as to where to place the Reservoir on the SK4? :oops: I'm having a spot of bother getting mine to fit under the pilion seat...what with fuse boxes and the like getting in the way... :?

Carsick 31-12-04 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdubya
Any other suggestions as to where to place the Reservoir on the SK4? :oops: I'm having a spot of bother getting mine to fit under the pilion seat...what with fuse boxes and the like getting in the way... :?

Cable tie the fusebox to one side then mount the reseroir in the funky plastic bracket they supply.

Jdubya 03-01-05 06:26 PM

Right,
I managed to fit it this afternoon! YAY! :D Now all I have to do is hope the weather's good tomorrow(I'm a bit of a wuss like that)
Managed to mount the reservoir under the pilion seat using the funky wedge-shaped bracket glued to the frame. I do unfortunately still need to sort out a more permanent solution to the delivery tube...at the moment it is just cable-tied to the swingarm at the moment with the tube running up behind the footpeg rearset in behind the grey plastic cover and then under the seat.
The vacuum was a bit tricky...you need small nimble fingers to get in there...or be really good with long-nose pliers! :D
I'll let you all know if it works tomorrow(weather dependant)
:?

northwind 03-01-05 06:53 PM

I've used the clear rubbery things to attach the tubing down the inside of the swingarm with superglue, works pretty well- only there's no visible tubing for me to judge if hte system's primed right or not. You could use ordinary p-clips, -03s IIRC, bolted to the mudguard fixing points, I had it that way for a while but it was a little ugly.

Jdubya 04-01-05 05:25 PM

Well, took her out for a spin today in the wind...interesting. :shock: But the oiler seems to not be dispensing any oil! :shock: :? I shall have to check all the connections at the weekend. :( Any suggestions as to why this could be happening? Yes, the reservoir is full and I followed the instructions to a T!
The RMV is set to 9 and at tickover it is only dispensing 1 drop every 2 minutes... :?

Stig 04-01-05 08:28 PM

Are you sure that you primed it before adjusting the setting??

You have to "prime" it before using it, otherwise there will be air in the system and it wont work. The only other thing that I can think of is that where you have attached the "T" piece on the vacuem pipe, there is air getting in there. Try getting a couple if tie wraps and tie wrap the hoses on to the "T" piece

Other than that I am clueless :roll: :roll:

carlos19679 04-01-05 10:35 PM

The oil takes longer to get warmed up in the winter, scottoiler recommend that the bike has a run of 20 mins be4 you check it, also have a look at the breather pipe make sure there are no blockages in it. It took me a few rides out to get it sorted but its well worth being patient with it

BaggaZee 05-01-05 01:40 PM

Hmmm, assuming that you primed it by forcing oil through it using the bottle the oil came in, the only thing I can think of is angle & fill level, the instructions do say that it has to be below horizontal (15 degrees I think) and that the point where the breather attaches must be above the oil level, otherwise a vacuum is created in the reservoir.
Any use? :?:

Cloggsy 05-01-05 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdubya
The RMV is set to 9 and at tickover it is only dispensing 1 drop every 2 minutes... :?

As has already been said... The oil will be really thick, because it is cold... If oil is getting through, then it is working :wink:

harvy 11-02-08 08:25 PM

Re: Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
Hey sorry to resurect this thread but anyone got the doc file to hand? ive got a k6 and i havent got a clue where the vacc point is!

Lozzo 11-02-08 08:51 PM

Re: Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harvy (Post 1413663)
Hey sorry to resurect this thread but anyone got the doc file to hand? ive got a k6 and i havent got a clue where the vacc point is!

Try here.

http://www.scottoiler.com/support_in...ion-guides.asp

If you want the neatest method of fitting the delivery pipe then do this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/...ff97829c_b.jpg

harvy 11-02-08 08:56 PM

Re: Scottoiler (K3/4)
 
Thanks- i did have a at the site, strangely ive found the pdf for the sv650, which i couldnt find the first time :S

Ill have a look tomorrow and see if I can find the spigot!


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