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alkap 12-07-05 09:14 AM

Scottoiler installation during bike warranty period
 
Greets,
I was planning to install Scottoiler universial kit to K5 that i got recently. But the bike is still under warranty. Does it mean that the bike warranty would be cancelled then? Does Suzuki has worldwide warranty or is it contry specific?

I could let dealer to install the Scottoiler kit, but he kind a disagrees such kind a things. Saying that whole bike will be messi and covered with oil because of that. And it would be way more efficient to wash with brush and oil the chain after each 500km. And after that i might want to have an automatic wheel changer. So i don't think he would be happy to install it for me.

Needless to say that i am lazy anough not to wash the chain after every 500km and really i have even no idea how to do it. :oops:

(think need to buy a bike stand with what i could raise the rear wheel... :roll: )

Regards
alkap

BillyC 12-07-05 10:27 AM

Your dealer talks crap.

The Scotty will more than likely double the life of your chain and sprockets, and reduce the general maintenance that it requires.

Your dealer probably just doesn't want to lose this lucrative part of his business, in supplying, and fitting, chains and sprockets.

tomjones2 12-07-05 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyC
Your dealer talks crap.

The Scotty will more than likely double the life of your chain and sprockets, and reduce the general maintenance that it requires.

Your dealer probably just doesn't want to lose this lucrative part of his business, in supplying, and fitting, chains and sprockets.

agreed i cant speak highly enough about scotoiler products and there customer service

Cronos 12-07-05 11:45 AM

Your dealer is so full of it that his eyes are turning brown.

Suggest you install scottoiler and give your business to another dealer.

fizzwheel 12-07-05 11:56 AM

Agree with the others, Scotoilers are the best thing since sliced, bread.

It cover your bike with oil unless you set the drip rate to high :oops:

SV650Racer 12-07-05 12:48 PM

It wont affect your warranty.

Red ones 12-07-05 01:49 PM

Does it alter the performance of the bike? Does is increase wear on non-consumable parts? No.

Won't affect the warranty (or if anyone argues that it does, you have grounds to agrue the case)

Does it make a mess of the back wheel - only if you set it wrongly.

Do they do a good job - Yes. I do about 1500 miles a month and cant be bothered to do the chain every 2 weeks - a real saver for me!

SV650Racer 12-07-05 02:16 PM

The only way i could see them rejecting a warranty claim is if the scottoiler damages a part or causes a running fault on the bike which is very very unlikely.

Stig 12-07-05 05:41 PM

Even if you use a chain lubricator other than a scottoiler, your chain is going to produce "fling" on the rear wheel. I also would be lubricating the chain more frequently than every 500km.

If you use scottoil in the oiler the fling that is produced on the rear wheel is a damn site easier to clean off than chain wax or oil.

The other considerable benefit of using a scottoiler over chain lube or wax is it makes the chain virtually maintenance free, no cleaning required. Chain adjustment is less frequent. And as has been said, can double the life of your sprockets and chain, if not longer.

jonboy 12-07-05 07:08 PM

I examined my chain very thoroughly tonight and after 7k it's rather knackered with unreasonable play in quite a few links with several serious tightspots. It also has approx 20% of the X-rings missing :shock: .

Now I put on an Iris Gold 0-ring and Talon sprockets (rear is a 46 tooth alloy). The front sprocket is slightly hooked and the rear just slightly worn. Have I ever cleaned it? Many many times. Have I lubed it? Almost excessively and usually every 50-100 miles.

Did I put my Loobman oiler on? No :oops: . Will do next time.

It's the third chain I've had in 27k, the Suzuki one lasted 16k, then an SSS o-ring lasted 4k (but stupidly kept the original sprockets) and now this chain and sprockets need replacing very shortly though might be able to hang it out for another 1000-1500 miles or so.

And people wonder why I hanker after shaft drive :roll: .

Anyway the point of this post is that a chain oiler is a damn fine idea whether it gives excessive fling or not.


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alkap 13-07-05 06:07 AM

Thanks,

I've been red almost only good stuff about the oliers - i really did doubt the claims he had.
Anyway, the problem that made me ask about the cancellation of warranty period is that i need to cut the vacum hose and put the T-pipe in between. I know it would not impact any bike performance and also i think it would not make life shorter for other parts (at least if i do it right or if i do the right hose ;) ). But that gave me an idea that he might to refuse to do the warranty repairs if he hasn't installed the T-pipe by himself.
I don't have many Suzuki dealers around. In fact i think he's the only "official" dealer in the country. Of course we've got some dealers in here who deals with a Suzuki cars, but i don't really think they would be able to repair or order parts for Suzuki bikes.
Eventually, i think i will do the Scotty installation by myself. The bike is just to new, that's the reason that made me worry of the warranty period.

regs
alkap

Sudoxe 13-07-05 06:46 AM

You dont need to cut any hoses on the K5, there are two vacume connectors, one on each throttle body (clever eh!).

Now these are useally covered by a black plastic cap, and they are used to measure the vacume per throttle body with a set of vacume gauges. When you need to balence the throttle bodies. However, one does not need to balence his throttle bodies everyday.

You can just connect your scottoiler to that :thumbsup:

There is also another product called lubeman which runs off of the battery, but i've not got any idea how good they are.

Dan

Red ones 13-07-05 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonboy
And people wonder why I hanker after shaft drive :roll: .

BMW do some nice topboxes! (No, really they do - but they do suit them!)



People write about the fling on the back wheel, but most of the fling is on the front sprocket which is of course much smaller. If you set your Scottoiler so that there is minimal fling at the front you will find that the rear stays pretty clean - the front is coverd up with the clutch cover panel and so is not seen so easily!

alkap 13-07-05 11:07 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudoxe
You dont need to cut any hoses on the K5, there are two vacume connectors, one on each throttle body (clever eh!).
...
You can just connect your scottoiler to that :thumbsup:
...

I can :o? I think i need to do a little research before the installation. I haven't took bike aparts to yet. But that seems to be good idea of course. Thanks for that.

regs
alkap

hutchy 13-07-05 01:43 PM

3 week old K5 1300 miles scottoiler from new - chain in gr8 condition, well lubed and clean, fling on inner rim was a pain to clean off till I sorted out a paddock stand, now a piece of p**s. Got into more trouble with my wife cos fling onto the number plate dripped onto patio :? .

wyrdness 13-07-05 02:05 PM

Since you don't have to cut anything on a K5, I shouldn't think that fitting a Scottoiler would affect your warranty. As others have said, it sounds as if your dealer is full of sh*t.

I don't think that the dual injector is worth fitting, having had one on my SV.


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