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Brake probs (with pictures!)
Covered this on a thread with Scoobs the other night, just adding pics into the mix!
Put on new pads but for some reason the caliper housing seems to stick out as much as the pad (shown with 1 & 2 ) - #1 also had a clip on it to hold the inner pad in place but I removed this to see if I could get any joy. As you can see I didn't, it's contacting with the disc :roll: http://upload4.postimage.org/484557/brake.jpg http://upload4.postimage.org/484561/disc.jpg |
Thanks for the input but I don't see how it can be anything to do with the forks when I can see that the brake housing (#1 & 2) exceeds the line of the pad when it's off.
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No offence but have you fitted them the right way round. IE have you tried to put the left caliper pads on the right caliper and vice versa. !!!
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TBH I cant really see what you are saying.
Have you pushed the pistons back in properly? have you pushed the sliding bracked back properly? |
I can't figure it from the pics... The gap with the pads looks wrong to me, but I can't figure out why. Sorry, not much help! If you want a second opinuionj I can probably fire over one night this week...
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Thanks for the replies.
Blue - pads deffo on right, they only go on one way! Itching - this may be the problem, my initial set had metal clips on the rear. I assumed these were just because they were a different type of pad but it looks like clips should've been transferred? Sid - not sure tbh :oops: North - thanks mate, decent of you as ever :thumbsup: Will wait and see if these clips will sort it though. |
Fitted the wheel correctly? I had this exact same problem. I took the wheel of and put it back on and tightened the axle bolt right up. It went in further than last time I remembered. Perhaps only maybe 4mm more but this stopped that part of the caliper hitting the disc.
Wheel ain't fitted properly is my educated guess. Apparently it happens quite often. |
Thanks Instigator, looks like it's back to the drawing board on that then.
Does anyone know about these pad backing clips? Have they to be transferred? |
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Thanks TSM and Sid, will get the front end off then and sort it. Also got new brake seals and fluid today so should be good to go (though no ruber grease was provided with seals, bloke in shop said I didn't need any :?: ).
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Thanks Sid - I specifically asked him about this "should these come with rubber grease and don't I specifically need that" and he said just to use brake fluid :x
So should OEM Suzuki seals come with the grease? Edit: also just wanted to confirm the clamps you mention above - do you mean the yoke clamps or axle clamp? |
I suppose you'd say it's not essential... Just a very good idea. Frost's will sell you a tub for about a fiver that'll last you for 5 lifetimes ;)
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Confused it with my last bike and thought you might be referring to the lower headstock :-dd
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Hmm, not getting much joy doing that Sid - I don't know if you can see from that pic above but the axle bolt still sticks out around 4mm so that maybe the problem.
Would this just need tightened more? (I think I'd tightenened it to the recommended torque :? ). |
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Now this is the way i found out mine was damaged, someone may dispute this method, but it worked for me, plus if it is bent and you only want a temp fix then you can find out how much rotation of the top tube will give the correct clearance you need to stop the brakes touching the disk. Usual care should be taken with tighening all bolts prior to riding the bike and making sure no parts are binding. If you are not clear on any of this then leave it to a garage to do. |
right i had the same problem but mine happened when i changed my tyre!
what it is is the front spindle... ( i think thats the right name) but the bar that goes through the center of the wheal is out of line what u need to do is undo the wheal and the two bolts on the bottom tap the bar through a little (to the left when sat on the bike) do the wheal bolt up and then the two smaller ones ... thats what they did to mine when it happened to my brakes just a thought lol |
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Re: Brake probs (with pictures!)
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Whats playing with the forks going to change? You've got the wrong thickness pads no? Right footprint...wrong thickness of pad material. Or what am i missing? |
Nah, those are the right pads. EBC HH FA229, IIRC. I had the same ones in mine.
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Re: Brake probs (with pictures!)
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Did you find out what the problem is?
What pads(make are you using). Post up the Part number if you can as someone may be able to double check you have the right pads. Alternatively can you post up a pic of the pad showing the rear of pads when installed in the calipers ie other side that can be seen in your first pic. Cheers Ben Right I've just gone out and got a set of caliper I've got lying around. It's been ages since I looked at a standard caliper. Anyhows I think your problem may be the pistons may be stuck. Cheers Ben EDIT: Scrap that , I've had another look/think and I'm convinced the problem is pad related(backing plate too thick. It may appear counter-intuitive but think that's the problem. I've also done a comparison with a set of Nissin pads I've got and appears's that is the case. A pic would probably explain it better. http://upload4.postimage.org/496162/DSC01009.jpg |
Good won't have the number, but he got the pads off me... I might have an unopened pack still, I could get the number off that- but I got 3 packs at the same time and fitted one just fine.
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Its nothing to do with the pads or caliper at alll.
It cant be as its not the caliper thats damaging the disk, its the bracket which is a fixed item onto the fork leg eg making the fork leg the place to look. |
This is great, it's like Guess Who.
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Not trying to imply you're a numpty but did you remove the front wheel for any reason, if so did you put the spacer back in.
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Thanks again for all the replies - sorry I've not been about this savo to get back to you all, been busy with work stuff but I'm hoping to get out tonight and have a play. Tried the initial routine that Sid mentioned, didn't work so am going to trying HARDER!!! as suggested :D
FWIW, that side isn't the ones you sent me Northy, they are Armstrong HH I got for the other side. Will check codes when home. Have had the front wheel off Foey but am pretty sure the spacer is there! |
Is it not :oops: Looks just like it :) I always get the sides wrong. Anyhow, it's till not the pads ;)
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Ok, quick pic of the axle should let you see the distance it's protruding (big word for today :lol: ) and verify that the spacer's in there.
Re. the pad types, the set North sent were indeed EBC FA229. The set I bought (for right side, as pictured) were Armstrong GG coded PAD320221 - but they have a "cross reference" for EBC's coded FA231 (a little concerned as this isn't the same code as North's set). FWIW, the pistons aren't retracting fully but it's not the pads that are scraping the disc, it's lug #1 on the caliper - as lug #2 isn't touching though (which is on the same plane) this would kinda back up Sid/TSM's theory of the forks. http://upload4.postimage.org/499827/DSCF0814.jpg |
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The axle bolt should sit flush with the side of the leg, which its not on yours. Have to checked to see if its fully threaded into the other fork? If it was not the wheel would have some sideways movement so its unlikley as you would tell this easly. |
Don't worry, 229 is left and 231 is right! (at last, I contribute something acccurate to this thread!)
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God damn you TSM!
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ROFL :laughat:
TSM, could you define "fully threaded into the other fork" - I mean, it's in there but obviously can't be enough if it's still sticking out the other end. The problem is (as I mentioned) was I think it was torqued to the right level when put on. |
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Has the bike ever been involved in a crash on either side, by you or any other owner that you are aware? If you are not aware then you can check, look on the headstock and find where the steering stop is, put your finger over each side and it may feal like its indented a little bit. |
Will need to check that tomorrow now - when you say "steering stop" do you just mean where it's on full lock to either side?
Sorry for all the questions :roll: |
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