46mph in 30 speed limit - SV650.org

JulesW · 17-04-14, 09:59 PM

Just got a NIP for 46 mph, doesn't say what speed limit I broke but I'm assuming it was a 30.

Any ideas on the consequences?

kaivalagi · 17-04-14, 10:04 PM

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/r...nalty_notices/

Speed limit: 30 mph
ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph
Summons: 50 mph

Speed limit: 40 mph
ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph
Summons: 66 mph

Looks like it's a fixed penalty for sure for a 30 and just for a 40...

17-04-14, 10:04 PM

NIP should tell you where the offence took place so you will be able to find our what the speed limit is. If it is a 30, you will get £60 fine and 3 points, or if it is a first offence (or you have not had a speeding offence for two years), the choice to pay to attend a speed awareness course and avoid the points and fine. If it was in a 40 then it's a bit harsh but will probably result in the same.

17-04-14, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaivalagi

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/r...nalty_notices/

Speed limit: 30 mph
ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph
Summons: 50 mph

Speed limit: 40 mph
ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph
Summons: 66 mph

Looks like it's a fixed penalty for sure for a 30 and just for a 40...

I was at a speed awareness course about 18 months ago and one of the delegates had been nicked for 33mph in a 30. I didn't believe him until he showed me the NIP. Seems that they make up the rules to suit.

kaivalagi · 17-04-14, 10:14 PM

Couldn't you dispute it in those situations based on the CPS guidelines...does seem kinda harsh!

Either way the OP is paying a small fine and getting 3 points it seems, very unlucky if he was in a 40 but no arguing with the guidelines there...

17-04-14, 10:18 PM

I was very lucky. The film must have run out, but I went past a camera doing 156'000mph in a 40. Shat myself for about three weeks then relaxed in the knowledge that no NIP was coming my way.

JulesW · 17-04-14, 10:21 PM

If its 3 points and £60 I can live with it.

kaivalagi · 17-04-14, 10:23 PM

Yeah, can't seeing it be anything else...

17-04-14, 10:25 PM

My first ever speeding offence was 57 in a 30 (many years ago) and I was stopped by a traffic car that had been hiding behind a hedge. He told me that I would be reported for the offence and asked where I wanted to produce my documents. I did this and asked in the police station what happens now - they did not know but suggested that as it was a first offence I would probably get a rap on the knuckles and told not to do it again. I didn't hear another word for exactly six months to the day when a summons dropped through my letterbox. I protested to the local police station but pled guilty by post and was fined £75, £25 costs and three points. I have since found out that I could have told them to shove it as there was no NIP and I wasn't cautioned at the roadside.

kaivalagi · 17-04-14, 10:29 PM

I was caught in a sneaky way too, just in a 30 before the NSL leaving a village by a radar gun from a lovely chap leaning around a wall, I wasn't so lucky though.....a nice trip to the magistrates for me

A big lesson learnt that day...my court date was 6 days before Christmas...not a great year

17-04-14, 09:59 PM	#1
JulesW Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wirral Posts: 444	46mph in 30 speed limit Just got a NIP for 46 mph, doesn't say what speed limit I broke but I'm assuming it was a 30. Any ideas on the consequences? __________________ Bikes I've owned and loved: Bridgestone 90, Honda CB175, Suzuki GT250, Yamaha YZ125, RD350LC x2, RD350YPVS x2 & FZR600, Honda CB900F, Suzuki SV650S K6, 2014 Triumph Street Triple R

17-04-14, 10:04 PM	#2
kaivalagi Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,955	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/r...nalty_notices/ Speed limit: 30 mph ACPO charging threshold: 35 mph Summons: 50 mph Speed limit: 40 mph ACPO charging threshold: 46 mph Summons: 66 mph Looks like it's a fixed penalty for sure for a 30 and just for a 40... __________________ Mark Triumph and Suzuki owner Last edited by kaivalagi; 17-04-14 at 10:05 PM.

17-04-14, 10:04 PM	#3
Ninthbike Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit NIP should tell you where the offence took place so you will be able to find our what the speed limit is. If it is a 30, you will get £60 fine and 3 points, or if it is a first offence (or you have not had a speeding offence for two years), the choice to pay to attend a speed awareness course and avoid the points and fine. If it was in a 40 then it's a bit harsh but will probably result in the same. Last edited by Ninthbike; 17-04-14 at 10:05 PM.

17-04-14, 10:14 PM	#5
kaivalagi Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,955	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit Couldn't you dispute it in those situations based on the CPS guidelines...does seem kinda harsh! Either way the OP is paying a small fine and getting 3 points it seems, very unlucky if he was in a 40 but no arguing with the guidelines there... __________________ Mark Triumph and Suzuki owner

17-04-14, 10:18 PM	#6
Matt-EUC Guest Posts: n/a	46mph in 30 speed limit I was very lucky. The film must have run out, but I went past a camera doing 156'000mph in a 40. Shat myself for about three weeks then relaxed in the knowledge that no NIP was coming my way.

17-04-14, 10:21 PM	#7
JulesW Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wirral Posts: 444	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit If its 3 points and £60 I can live with it. __________________ Bikes I've owned and loved: Bridgestone 90, Honda CB175, Suzuki GT250, Yamaha YZ125, RD350LC x2, RD350YPVS x2 & FZR600, Honda CB900F, Suzuki SV650S K6, 2014 Triumph Street Triple R

17-04-14, 10:23 PM	#8
kaivalagi Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,955	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit Yeah, can't seeing it be anything else... __________________ Mark Triumph and Suzuki owner

17-04-14, 10:25 PM	#9
Ninthbike Guest Posts: n/a	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit My first ever speeding offence was 57 in a 30 (many years ago) and I was stopped by a traffic car that had been hiding behind a hedge. He told me that I would be reported for the offence and asked where I wanted to produce my documents. I did this and asked in the police station what happens now - they did not know but suggested that as it was a first offence I would probably get a rap on the knuckles and told not to do it again. I didn't hear another word for exactly six months to the day when a summons dropped through my letterbox. I protested to the local police station but pled guilty by post and was fined £75, £25 costs and three points. I have since found out that I could have told them to shove it as there was no NIP and I wasn't cautioned at the roadside.

17-04-14, 10:29 PM	#10
kaivalagi Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,955	Re: 46mph in 30 speed limit I was caught in a sneaky way too, just in a 30 before the NSL leaving a village by a radar gun from a lovely chap leaning around a wall, I wasn't so lucky though.....a nice trip to the magistrates for me A big lesson learnt that day...my court date was 6 days before Christmas...not a great year __________________ Mark Triumph and Suzuki owner Last edited by kaivalagi; 17-04-14 at 10:30 PM.

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