Self incrimination (speed cameras) illegal?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5383726.stm

Personally, I've always thought the present system (which requires the driver of a vehicle to incriminate themself amd which fines them if they don't) to be contrary to every other UK law (innocent until proven guilty and all that) and also illegal as it is in direct contravention of human rights legislation.

Good luck to 'em

or we could not speed....

thought for the day....


and yes i do have 3 points

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9166

link to latest info, not sure if theyre expectin a result today or in a few weeks though

Originally Posted by 454697819

or we could not speed....

thought for the day....


and yes i do have 3 points

Well of course the governments ultimate desire will be to make everything a fine-able offence. So when they have total survailence of everything we do they can fine us every 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9166

link to latest info, not sure if theyre expectin a result today or in a few weeks though

...a few months according to the article.

[Stingo]

Hmm, so, if this goes in the defendants favour, what effect, if any, do the members of the org think it will have on other videoed/photographed evidence?

"Right then young sir - we have footage of you helping yourself to the pick'n'mix and leaving the emporium without proper payment thereof blah blah".

Young sir - "No you haven't" or "I couldn't possibly identify that person as being...er...me".

They can do what the French have done and just put in forward facing cameras to catch all those pesky speeders...

Originally Posted by Stingo

Hmm, so, if this goes in the defendants favour, what effect, if any, do the members of the org think it will have on other videoed/photographed evidence?

Effectively it will be "Bye-bye Gatso, hello Truvelo", i.e. the end of rear-facing speed cameras.

As bikers we should be pleased at this thought, but don't broadcast it too loudly, eh?

Originally Posted by Stingo

"Right then young sir - we have footage of you helping yourself to the pick'n'mix and leaving the emporium without proper payment thereof blah blah".

Young sir - "No you haven't" or "I couldn't possibly identify that person as being...er...me"

Presumed innocent until proven guilty....... it's up to the prosecution to demonstrate to the satidfaction of the Court that the person in the video and the person being prosecuted are one and the same.

Expect the wearing of hoodies to be banned in more shopping centres

[northwind]

Interesting isn't it... I remember all the talk that they'd switch to front-facing cameras to get around this, after the whole "can't be forced to incriminate your husband or wife" loophole came up.

Personally, I don't have a problem with it "Who was driving the car". If this appeal's succesful they'll just change the law to require the registered keeper to know who's driving their car. "Were you driving the car" "Don't know" "Well, who was?" "Don't know". "Fine, can't do you for speeding, we'll do you for not knowing who was driving".