Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? - SV650.org

10-09-08, 09:35 PM

i have just found this on ebay.
Has anyone used one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRE-for-SV650-...d=p3286.c0.m14

10-09-08, 09:41 PM

Don`t bother , the SV has very little Retarding on it , unless you count me on a bike

Mr Speirs · 10-09-08, 09:43 PM

Is this an old post just copied and pasted?

Yes they eliminate the Timing Retard but some people contest that the real world benefits are negligible. Also you can do it for free using nothing more than a small screwdriver and tweezers or a pair of snips.
If you do a search for TRE it will lead you to a good step by step guide to getting the same effect for nothing.
I have done it myself but haven't noticed a marked difference in performance but like the knowledge of knowing each gear is being fuelled properly

10-09-08, 10:01 PM

Has anyone actually tested it in an empirical fashion? Most folk say it's not worth doing, but some seem to swear by it.

Mr Speirs · 10-09-08, 10:08 PM

One fella on a previous TRE do they work post actually dyno tested an SV650 with and without the mod and test revealed that it made no difference whatsoever.

yorkie_chris · 10-09-08, 10:18 PM

It wouldn't suprise me if it were zadar... and no... the TRE's make such a small difference it isn't really a performance item, certainly not worth the money the pre-built TRE's are sold for.

10-09-08, 10:24 PM

It`s a perception thing , people swear it makes a difference as they tear open the throttle to "test" it , in reality , it makes little to no difference , save the money and spend 30 quid on a useful item like an oil rad guard or Fenda Extenda

yorkie_chris · 10-09-08, 10:25 PM

Or even do it... but for f###s sake do it properly with a resistor worth about 6p for the same effect...

10-09-08, 10:28 PM

There is that too

11-09-08, 08:20 AM

you can do it for free ( i have on mine) cut the wires coming out of the gear possition indicator. only the green and red, the others are for the nuetral light. Then the bike doesn't know what gear it's in and therefore cant retard the timing in 2nd and 3rd.
see http://www.sv650.org/ig_retard/ignition_mod.htm

10-09-08, 09:35 PM	#1
tonny006 Guest Posts: n/a	Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? i have just found this on ebay. Has anyone used one? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRE-for-SV650-...d=p3286.c0.m14

10-09-08, 09:41 PM	#2
xXBADGERXx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? Don`t bother , the SV has very little Retarding on it , unless you count me on a bike

10-09-08, 09:43 PM	#3
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? Is this an old post just copied and pasted? Yes they eliminate the Timing Retard but some people contest that the real world benefits are negligible. Also you can do it for free using nothing more than a small screwdriver and tweezers or a pair of snips. If you do a search for TRE it will lead you to a good step by step guide to getting the same effect for nothing. I have done it myself but haven't noticed a marked difference in performance but like the knowledge of knowing each gear is being fuelled properly __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

10-09-08, 10:01 PM	#4
simesb Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? Has anyone actually tested it in an empirical fashion? Most folk say it's not worth doing, but some seem to swear by it.

10-09-08, 10:08 PM	#5
Mr Speirs Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,218	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? One fella on a previous TRE do they work post actually dyno tested an SV650 with and without the mod and test revealed that it made no difference whatsoever. __________________ Smokey Black Burnty 02 - Racetech Smoulderlators + .90kg BBQ Springs, zx10r shockingly toasted, Conti Road Attacks heat up very nicely, R&G Crash Bungs but what f**king use are they, No Colour Matched Hugger, Flame Extenda, Beowulf Titainium Oval Flame Thrower.

10-09-08, 10:18 PM	#6
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? It wouldn't suprise me if it were zadar... and no... the TRE's make such a small difference it isn't really a performance item, certainly not worth the money the pre-built TRE's are sold for. __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

10-09-08, 10:24 PM	#7
xXBADGERXx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? It`s a perception thing , people swear it makes a difference as they tear open the throttle to "test" it , in reality , it makes little to no difference , save the money and spend 30 quid on a useful item like an oil rad guard or Fenda Extenda

10-09-08, 10:25 PM	#8
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? Or even do it... but for f###s sake do it properly with a resistor worth about 6p for the same effect... __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

10-09-08, 10:28 PM	#9
xXBADGERXx Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? There is that too

11-09-08, 08:20 AM	#10
boo86 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Timing Retard Eliminator. Do They Work? you can do it for free ( i have on mine) cut the wires coming out of the gear possition indicator. only the green and red, the others are for the nuetral light. Then the bike doesn't know what gear it's in and therefore cant retard the timing in 2nd and 3rd. see http://www.sv650.org/ig_retard/ignition_mod.htm

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